NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list

[pugsnotdrugs19]

From SportingNews.com:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...j17r8odsobcbca

— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.

— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.

Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.

If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia.

[thabear04]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ass-at-pro-day

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

It has come to my attention that Mahomes' hand size is closer to Kaepernicks than it does to Russell Wilson's.

Red Flag.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I heard a great analogy for these QBs this morning.

The thinking was that with most of the QBs such as Trubisky or Watson, you were probably sure to have a B+ to C- level QB. With Mahomes, you're looking at probably an A or an F. It's the ultimate gamble. Go big or go home.

Most times, I wouldn't advocate such a pick in the first round. But if you are the Chiefs right now, with a nearly filled roster that could play today if they had to, why wouldn't you roll the dice? They know they need a QBOTF and they know that Mahomes wouldn't have to play for 1-2 years. It's the perfect storm for both the organization and player IMO.

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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I'm shocked.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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[New World Order]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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We have a 'c' quarterback. His name is Ass

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2)is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

Sigh.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.



It's like if you have 2 choices:



A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing



B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed



Any rational person takes B right?



Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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Option B isn't 750k or 800k. It's 750k, 800k, OR a big fat 0.

Just like option A.

And you have to consider if you're more likely to receive 1,000,000 from option A than you are 750 or 800k from option B.

I totally see that happening with a lot of QBs in this class. I think it's more likely that Mahomes, Kizer, and Trubisky will be studs than Peterman will be a negligible Kyle Orton type starter in the league.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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The only way this analogy makes any sense at all is if it's in a scenario where if you don't get $1M, you lose your house, all your positions, and end up homeless. The bank is going to take any amount you have to settle your debt, so it's just a matter of keeping your house/possessions.

Sure, you can take the $700k and hope a miracle happens at the casino to save your house. Or, you can take the shot at the million, knowing that unless you can save your house, the $700k is meaningless.

Apparently, you're okay with making the playoffs, then one and done. Most of us aren't, and want a shot at a championship. If it blows up, so what - try again until you hit.

[ct]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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congrats, you already have one, #11 Alex Smith

go for the win here chiefs, we have the ammo to move up if mahomes is sitting there in the teens. may not even hurt our draft that much either.

pull the trigger and do it!

[ct]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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This is precisely the rationale people associate with the Hunts. Option B keeps teams competitive, fills the seats, and makes them profit. Option A wins super bowls, or gets GMs/HC's fired.

It's all about your goals.

[Chiefnj2]

People like Mahomes because he's a rocket armed Johnny Manziel (minus the coke problem)?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

People like Mahomes because he's a rocket armed Johnny Manziel (minus the coke problem)?

Yea, he's exactly like Manziel. Only difference is that he's bigger, has a better arm, and has all the intangibles!