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Old 12-07-2017, 08:10 PM  
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Old 08-21-2018, 03:58 PM   #496
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For me, I don't really think that you can coach up accuracy, and by all accounts, Mayfield's is a good as anyone that has come out in years.

The question becomes, what is his work ethic and desire.

That was what separated Brees.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:00 PM   #497
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As to the question that was raised earlier, Watson or Mayfield?

I'm taking Mayfield.

I just don't believe that you can have sustained success with an arm that weak.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:06 PM   #498
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Pretty much how I feel.

Of course Mayfield is going to struggle just like Brees, but I don’t know how he will answer that adversity. .
I think he'll be just fine. Watching him in hardknocks and he comes off as a guy that won't let adversity bring him down.

Dude has charm and personability. I think they have a star on their hands.
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Old 08-21-2018, 04:08 PM   #499
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Man, you guys are a lot more confident in Mayfield than I am.

No way I’m taking him over Watson yet.

We have yet to see him against a real NFL defense. He’s used to playing shit defenses with all the time in the world and some really nice weapons. I just don’t think he’s this sure thing whatsoever. It’s not like Pat who had a shit OL, average weapons at best, and no defense playing against those bad defenses.
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Old 08-21-2018, 08:54 PM   #500
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Man, you guys are a lot more confident in Mayfield than I am.

No way I’m taking him over Watson yet.

We have yet to see him against a real NFL defense. He’s used to playing shit defenses with all the time in the world and some really nice weapons. I just don’t think he’s this sure thing whatsoever. It’s not like Pat who had a shit OL, average weapons at best, and no defense playing against those bad defenses.
I don't want to speak for those guys, but I'm guessing you're overestimating Watson's professional experience.

I'm guessing these guys are viewing Watson as a complete unknown, so if you're going off college plus measurables, they're taking Baker.
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:02 PM   #501
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Mayfield's footwork in the pocket is very, very good for a rookie. He also has been doing a good job keeping his eyes downfield.

All the rookie QBs (except Jackson) are doing well their first two games.
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Man, you guys are a lot more confident in Mayfield than I am.

No way I’m taking him over Watson yet.

We have yet to see him against a real NFL defense. He’s used to playing shit defenses with all the time in the world and some really nice weapons. I just don’t think he’s this sure thing whatsoever. It’s not like Pat who had a shit OL, average weapons at best, and no defense playing against those bad defenses.
There are a ton of question marks with Baker. As said earlier I’m not sold on Watson, arm strength, durability and accuracy are big concerns with him.

Also Baker has walked on to 2 different programs and responded well in each instance.
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There are a ton of question marks with Baker. As said earlier I’m not sold on Watson, arm strength, durability and accuracy are big concerns with him.

Also Baker has walked on to 2 different programs and responded well in each instance.
Baker needs to sit and learn. Tyrod is a true pro's pro in this league and has more to teach Baker than most people would think.
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Man, you guys are a lot more confident in Mayfield than I am.

No way I’m taking him over Watson yet.

We have yet to see him against a real NFL defense. He’s used to playing shit defenses with all the time in the world and some really nice weapons. I just don’t think he’s this sure thing whatsoever. It’s not like Pat who had a shit OL, average weapons at best, and no defense playing against those bad defenses.
I'm taking Watson for the size and higher ceiling.
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Anyone see Terrance Mitchell bug the shit out of Landry on Hard Knocks and take a sucker punch from him? Didn't realize Landry was such a diva
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Yeah, I saw that. I was liking Landry up until that episode, too.
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Yeah, I saw that. I was liking Landry up until that episode, too.
Terrence Mitchell was being a punk.

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Also Baker has walked on to 2 different programs and responded well in each instance.
Except for his very first program at Texas Tech where PM2 handed Baker his arse.
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