So I was kicked out of my own fantasy entity ...

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

I warned fellow posters that DFS players are utter sheep. And sheep, quote, "always get slaughtered":

Tell that to all the people that's hit it big. Nobody went in expecting anything, it's a risk just like all gambling. The entertainment value alone made this experience worth a lousy $100.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Tell that to all the people that's hit it big. Nobody went in expecting anything, it's a risk just like all gambling. The entertainment value alone made this experience worth a lousy $100.

This is the type of stuff I continue to struggle with. How do you KNOW any of these "winners" are even real? You surely don't look at the dweeb named Ryan, 28, from Long Island who won $2,176,662 on Fan Duel, and buy it. You don't believe him when he says "only difference is I played and they didn't". You don't believe there was $45M won last month.....without realizing $60M was lost at the same time?

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

Tell that to all the people that's hit it big. Nobody went in expecting anything, it's a risk just like all gambling. The entertainment value alone made this experience worth a lousy $100.

If you want to be chum in the water for the sharks and that's fun for you, great.

If Hootie or any of the CP gambling gurus (kind of rings in your ears like "CP draft gurus" or "CP QB gurus") really knew how to beat the market in this game, they wouldn't need 50 people staking them.

They'd be like the pros, working alone, working 24 hours on it, developing their own software around it, and not splitting their profits 50 ways.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Cochise

If you want to be chum in the water for the sharks and that's fun for you, great.

If Hootie or any of the CP gambling gurus (kind of rings in your ears like "CP draft gurus" or "CP QB gurus") really knew how to beat the market in this game, they wouldn't need 50 people staking them.

They'd be like the pros, working alone, working 24 hours on it, developing their own software around it, and not splitting their profits 50 ways.

Obviously I didn't participate because I think those sites are a scam, but to play devil's advocate:

The idea was just as much about time as it was money. The sharks have all the time in the world to analyst data and enter an insane amount of lineups. The people here have 1) jobs and 2) a CP addiction taking up their days. Its kind of like the Seinfeld episode where Jerry and George team up to run the errands of a high-maintenance woman - neither had the time to get it all done on their own, but it was reasonable when working together.

You can't fault people for trying something seeing as how it didn't clear anyone out. I doubt anyone was going to quit their job and pony up thousands of dollars to try it.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Cochise

If you want to be chum in the water for the sharks and that's fun for you, great.

If Hootie or any of the CP gambling gurus (kind of rings in your ears like "CP draft gurus" or "CP QB gurus") really knew how to beat the market in this game, they wouldn't need 50 people staking them.

They'd be like the pros, working alone, working 24 hours on it, developing their own software around it, and not splitting their profits 50 ways.

Its not a binary thing where you either are the math genius with propriety software, or you are the lone dope turning in 2 lineups.

There is a ton of dumb money in these sites, maybe their group won't be the biggest sharks, but maybe they can be smarter than most of the fish and do better than break even.

[TimeForWasp]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Its not a binary thing where you either are the math genius with propriety software, or you are the lone dope turning in 2 lineups.

There is a ton of dumb money in these sites, maybe their group won't be the biggest sharks, but maybe they can be smarter than most of the fish and do better than break even.

I'm sure we will be happy if we just make some of the money back and have a good time till the rest of the season and if somewhere along the way we hit a decent pot, we will be ecstatic.

I'll just be happy if we can make the whole season and learn how to do this.

I just wish I could see the process during the games as being in Montana, I can't log in and watch so I have to kind of imagine how it's working.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Its not a binary thing where you either are the math genius with propriety software, or you are the lone dope turning in 2 lineups.

There is a ton of dumb money in these sites, maybe their group won't be the biggest sharks, but maybe they can be smarter than most of the fish and do better than break even.

-$3100

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Cochise

-$3100

The first week, yeah - we lost $3100.

Last week, we won $600 of that back, and would have made a lot more back if there hadn't been the hard on for Seattle's defense and getting ignored when Lamar Miller was suggested over Denard Robinson.

You only need one lineup to hit, and IIRC, we were less than 20 points away from the Million dollar winner.

Not saying we're going to win, just saying that with proper preparation, it helps the odds.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The first week, yeah - we lost $3100.

Last week, we won $600 of that back, and would have made a lot more back if there hadn't been the hard on for Seattle's defense and getting ignored when Lamar Miller was suggested over Denard Robinson.

You only need one lineup to hit, and IIRC, we were less than 20 points away from the Million dollar winner.

Not saying we're going to win, just saying that with proper preparation, it helps the odds.

Oh yeah, forgot about the Denard Robinson mancrush too. Jesus he is an idiot.

[KCCHIEFS27]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The first week, yeah - we lost $3100.

Last week, we won $600 of that back, and would have made a lot more back if there hadn't been the hard on for Seattle's defense and getting ignored when Lamar Miller was suggested over Denard Robinson.

You only need one lineup to hit, and IIRC, we were less than 20 points away from the Million dollar winner.

Not saying we're going to win, just saying that with proper preparation, it helps the odds.

You're telling me that Denard Robinson was used over Lamar Miller?? Ouch.

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The first week, yeah - we lost $3100.

Last week, we won $600 of that back, and would have made a lot more back if there hadn't been the hard on for Seattle's defense and getting ignored when Lamar Miller was suggested over Denard Robinson.

You only need one lineup to hit, and IIRC, we were less than 20 points away from the Million dollar winner.

Not saying we're going to win, just saying that with proper preparation, it helps the odds.

I can't believe you guys are airing out the numbers. So much for Fight Club.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

I can't believe you guys are airing out the numbers. So much for Fight Club.

It's already out there. And the main reason that rule was created was regarding lineups. Seeing as how the drama has been removed from the group, I don't see future info being shared.

With that said, I'm done. If these guys want to know what's happening, they should have bought in.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Its not a binary thing where you either are the math genius with propriety software, or you are the lone dope turning in 2 lineups.

There is a ton of dumb money in these sites, maybe their group won't be the biggest sharks, but maybe they can be smarter than most of the fish and do better than break even.

Fan Duel took in $272 MILLION last week. Paid out $65 MILLION. Thats some handsome profits.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Fan Duel took in $272 MILLION last week. Paid out $65 MILLION. Thats some handsome profits.

And paid out another $200 million in marketing.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Fan Duel took in $272 MILLION last week. Paid out $65 MILLION. Thats some handsome profits.

They need more competition. The competition internationally for internet gambling and internet poker is ruthless to the point where the house edge became very reasonable and low.