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Old 02-21-2019, 11:33 AM   #1
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Williams was catching the ball out of the backfield, BIG DEAL. We need a back that is gonna run between the tackles and gain big yards like Kareem did imo. Because there's gonna be times when we won't be able to just rely on Pat's arm. And when that happens a top class run game is what can get you over the line.
How many times did Kareem actually do what you're suggesting? You might want to go back and watch the games and look at Andy's play calling.

Furthermore, in the 2nd half when it really mattered, Williams had 16 yards on just 3 rushes. He can't help it he didn't get more touches.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:37 AM   #2
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How many times did Kareem actually do what you're suggesting? You might want to go back and watch the games and look at Andy's play calling.

Furthermore, in the 2nd half when it really mattered, Williams had 16 yards on just 3 rushes. He can't help it he didn't get more touches.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:41 AM   #3
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How many times did Kareem actually do what you're suggesting? You might want to go back and watch the games and look at Andy's play calling.

Furthermore, in the 2nd half when it really mattered, Williams had 16 yards on just 3 rushes. He can't help it he didn't get more touches.
Gotta be fair here - it mattered a TON in the first half when that offense was wetting the bed and his 7 carries for 14 yards was a part of that.

That said - we were getting blown off the line in that half and I'm not sure Hunt or Walter Payton would've made much of a difference.

This just isn't ever going to be a power football team and it shouldn't be. We don't have a need for a guy who's going to line up in the I Formation, put his head behind his FB and drive a pile forward. What is most effective for this offense is balance and a willingness to finish runs.

That's why Hunt was so good for us. It wasn't because he could take a play with 9 guys in the box, put his head down and just run through dudes. It was because he had the balance to slip through small seams, get his feet churning, keep the play going and then finish the run for another couple of yards when he got into the defensive backfield. Well Williams does a lot of that well also. He doesn't have Hunt's balance but Hunt's balance was a lot like Charles - just freakishly good. His is good though.
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Old 02-21-2019, 11:44 AM   #4
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Gotta be fair here - it mattered a TON in the first half when that offense was wetting the bed and his 7 carries for 14 yards was a part of that.

That said - we were getting blown off the line in that half and I'm not sure Hunt or Walter Payton would've made much of a difference.

This just isn't ever going to be a power football team and it shouldn't be. We don't have a need for a guy who's going to line up in the I Formation, put his head behind his FB and drive a pile forward. What is most effective for this offense is balance and a willingness to finish runs.

That's why Hunt was so good for us. It wasn't because he could take a play with 9 guys in the box, put his head down and just run through dudes. It was because he had the balance to slip through small seams, get his feet churning, keep the play going and then finish the run for another couple of yards when he got into the defensive backfield. Well Williams does a lot of that well also. He doesn't have Hunt's balance but Hunt's balance was a lot like Charles - just freakishly good. His is good though.
Yeah, the first half was bad but the offensive line was completely overmatched. Hunt wasn't winning in those situations either. The line was awful.

I'm not saying Hunt wasn't good. I'm saying Damien Williams is good enough. People act like losing Hunt was catastrophic and it simply wasn't. Not shoring up the secondary at the trade deadline was the catastrophic mistake they made and ultimately what cost them. What happened with Hunt ended up being irrelevant.
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Gotta be fair here - it mattered a TON in the first half when that offense was wetting the bed and his 7 carries for 14 yards was a part of that.

That said - we were getting blown off the line in that half and I'm not sure Hunt or Walter Payton would've made much of a difference.

This just isn't ever going to be a power football team and it shouldn't be. We don't have a need for a guy who's going to line up in the I Formation, put his head behind his FB and drive a pile forward. What is most effective for this offense is balance and a willingness to finish runs.

That's why Hunt was so good for us. It wasn't because he could take a play with 9 guys in the box, put his head down and just run through dudes. It was because he had the balance to slip through small seams, get his feet churning, keep the play going and then finish the run for another couple of yards when he got into the defensive backfield. Well Williams does a lot of that well also. He doesn't have Hunt's balance but Hunt's balance was a lot like Charles - just freakishly good. His is good though.
How good would Charles be in this current offense? My lord.

Or Kamara...…..
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How good would Charles be in this current offense? My lord.

Or Kamara...…..
You know Kamara is a touchy subject with me, sir. Yet you keep mentioning him.

It's not very gentlemanly of you.
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You know Kamara is a touchy subject with me, sir. Yet you keep mentioning him.

It's not very gentlemanly of you.
Yeah, it's upsetting.

But that's what they need. Williams is a great pass catching guy. Everyone is going to want them to look for a big bruiser. **** that. Give me another Williams.
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