Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT

[Sofa King]

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.

[O.city]

No one is trading two first rounders for the guy and giving him a big money contract. If they were, that would already be done.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Being smart means you take the best compensation available.

If you lose out on a key prospect that went a few picks higher, or have to trade to get to a spot where they woulda been with the Chiefs picks, or lose out on a prospect all together because the Chiefs offered an additional pick, that doesn't sound very ****ing smart to me.

You're arguing that the Ravens should take less compensation because it might make the Chiefs better, rather than focusing on making themselves the best they can be.

Loser mentality. I doubt the Ravens think that way.

I'm not saying they won't consider the partner. Of course they will. But i highly doubt it's a significant determining factor.

IMO The biggest part teams consider is what teams are offering. The next consideration is who those teams are.

Being the 2nd consideration seems pretty significant IMO.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by O.city

Fine.

Why would I let them fill it with my pro bowl tackle? Unless they wanna overpay that is.

Let them fill it with an unproven draft pick.

You're arguing to take lesser compensation because you're worried of how it may affect another team.

For all we know, the Ravens and Chiefs may never even play each other in the playoffs next season or the season thereafter.

If the Chiefs get bounced in round 1, or Brown can't even finish the season, then you taking lesser compensation was all for not.

You basically took one up the ass because you were worried and in the end, it was for nothing.

That sounds pretty damn dumb and illogical.

Hell, for all anyone knows the Ravens don't even make the playoffs next season and then they'd SURELY love the extra compensation.

The argument is just whack and short sighted AF.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You're arguing to take lesser compensation because you're worried of how it may affect another team.

For all we know, the Ravens and Chiefs may never even play each other in the playoffs next season or the season thereafter.

If the Chiefs get bounced in round 1, or Brown can't even finish the season, then you taking lesser compensation was all for not.

You basically took one up the ass because you were worried and in the end, it was for nothing.

That sounds pretty damn dumb and illogical.

Hell, for all anyone knows the Ravens don't even make the playoffs next season and then they'd SURELY love the extra compensation.

The argument is just whack and short sighted AF.

Once again, you're assuming that the chiefs are the only team they can trade to and it's either trade to us or get nothing. They can get good compensation AND keep the chiefs scrambling to get a premier position filled. How isn't that a win/win?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You're arguing to take lesser compensation because you're worried of how it may affect another team.

For all we know, the Ravens and Chiefs may never even play each other in the playoffs next season or the season thereafter.

If the Chiefs get bounced in round 1, or Brown can't even finish the season, then you taking lesser compensation was all for not.

You basically took one up the ass because you were worried and in the end, it was for nothing.

That sounds pretty damn dumb and illogical.

Hell, for all anyone knows the Ravens don't even make the playoffs next season and then they'd SURELY love the extra compensation.

The argument is just whack and short sighted AF.

If someone is offering a 4 and the Chiefs offered a 1, sure.

But if it's close, they'll take the other team. Easily.

Draft picks and such are to overrated, so trading a proven player for one to your biggest obstacle in the conference just never happens.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You presume they'd turn the best deal (assuming the Chiefs offer the best deal) because they're afraid of the Chiefs?

Yeah im not buying that fan made drama.

They're not going to give a good player to direct competition in-conference for just anything.

You can call it "being afraid" if you want. I never said that. It's smart not give good players to good teams in your conference if you believe you're in contention for a Super Bowl.

Let's say Jacksonville or some other AFC dreg comes at them with a 2022 1st round pick and Baltimore accepts. If KC offers the same thing plus a 2022 3rd, they're still probably going to go with Jacksonville's deal.

We don't have actual proof, but that's what was reported when KC was looking to trade Alex Smith. Denver (who wasn't even that good) offered more than Washington did. KC still traded him to Washington.

I don't know what to tell you. You can call it a stupid fan theory if you want, but this shit happens in the NFL. Don't blame me if you think it's dumb. Blame the GMs.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yet people here want to trade more picks that it would take to get Brown to get an unproven rookie. I'm sure you can see how that makes zero sense.

I just think Baltimore is going to price Brown out of our interest. I do think they would take a little less from somebody other than Pitt or KC.

I would rather us go with a stop gap OT ( Okung or Villinenau ) for a year or 2, grab a good pass blocking OT in the 2nd or 3rd Rd, maybe use 31 on a solid LB, or a top WR that falls to us.

I like Jenkins, I do think he fits us better of all the OT's, but just not sold on him at 31 when we need LB's & a top WR.

Good thing about this year's draft, IMHO it's loaded with a lot of good WR's.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Being smart means you take the best compensation available.

If you lose out on a key prospect that went a few picks higher, or have to trade to get to a spot where they woulda been with the Chiefs picks, or lose out on a prospect all together because the Chiefs offered an additional pick, that doesn't sound very ****ing smart to me.

You're arguing that the Ravens should take less compensation because it might make the Chiefs better, rather than focusing on making themselves the best they can be.

Loser mentality. I doubt the Ravens think that way.

I'm not saying they won't consider the partner. Of course they will. But i highly doubt it's a significant determining factor.

Without a doubt Balt. will do what is best for Balt. , that is as long as it's in their best interest. But will they make a move with KC if it's at best a lateral move for them? Hell no, It just comes down to logic, what makes yourself better to separate yourself from or to improve on a better team!

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by -King-

Once again, you're assuming that the chiefs are the only team they can trade to and it's either trade to us or get nothing. They can get good compensation AND keep the chiefs scrambling to get a premier position filled. How isn't that a win/win?

No, im assuming the Chiefs offer the most. If they don't it's moot.

And since we're assuming things, you're assuming that Brown going to the Chiefs will somehow affect the Ravens ability to have success. History shows us that the odds of this even mattering are low.

I've already demonstrated a multitude of scenarios in which Brown going to the Chiefs would matter not. Which you choose to ignore in favor of one specific scenario.



Scenario 1: Brown goes to the Chiefs and the Chiefs continue their reign of dominance.

------In this scenario nothing has changed for the Ravens as they still play 2nd fiddle, but at least they've maximized their compensation and have increased their odds of closing the gap between themselves and the Chiefs via the draft, rather than passing on maximum compensation and STILL playing catchup but with inferior draft picks.

Scenario 2: Brown goes to the Chiefs and a key injury or rash of injuries has derailed the Chief's season.

------In this scenario the Chiefs trading for Brown made no difference to the Ravens success. Not only did you take picks and reduce their effectivness to refresh their now injured roster, as well as maximize compensation, but the trade to the Chiefs didn't affect you in any negative way as they were never contenders that season.

Scenario 3: Brown goes to the Chiefs and the Chiefs get bounced early, or the Ravens get bounced early.

------In this scenario the Chiefs trading for Brown made no difference to the Ravens success. You maximized trade compensation for Brown, putting you in the best situation for the draft and you never even crossed paths for the trade to have mattered for you.

Scenario 4: Brown goes to the Chiefs and a key injury or rash of injuries has derailed the RAVEN'S season.

------In this scenario the Chiefs trading for Brown made no difference to the Ravens season. The Ravens were never truly competitive and are a non-playoff contender. Because they took maximum compensation they've positioned themselves to the best of their ability to maximize the draft and rebuild an injured/aging roster.

*****

In any of these possible scenarios, the Ravens have put themselves in the best possible situation to achieve success.

Only scenario 1 could work out as a disadvantage to the Ravens, and that's of course assuming Brown was even a key contributor, and even then, you've still maximized your compensation to try to get over the Chief-hurdle.

You and O.City are arguing from the standpoint that only scenario 1 is possible which tells me you really haven't thought this through or are simply arguing to argue.

Because there are a lot more than the 1st scenario that can come to fruition, in which case getting maximum compensation would be more than ideal for the Ravens.

[ModSocks]

Scenario 5: Brown goes to the Chiefs, they face off in the AFCCG and Brown gets used and abused like a turnstile.

...Yet another winning situation for the Ravens.

[ModSocks]

Scenario 6: Brown goes to the Chiefs and is a total bust. Gets fat, lazy and it turns out he can't play LT very well after all. Now the Chiefs have to find a LT, they're out picks AND they're saddled with dead money.

ANOTHER win for the Ravens.

[ModSocks]

What are we at, 5-1 here?

And ya'll are worried about the ONE?

I don't think the Ravens are that short sighted, sorry.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What are we at, 5-1 here?

And ya'll are worried about the ONE?

I don't think the Ravens are that short sighted, sorry.

Like I said, I don't know what to tell you.

You can call it stupid if you want, but this shit happens in the NFL. It's prevailing wisdom in a front office. And even a younger forward-thinking GM like KC's own Brett Veach has practiced this philosophy, where the price for a player varies depending on which team is attempting to make the deal.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Damn, i never put it together that Orlando Brown's dad was THE Orlando Brown that got hit in the eye with a flag.

I actually thought it was the same Orlando Brown that got hit in the eye. "Damn, that dude ended up recovering and he must be old af to still be playing"


(Just looked it up and he's been dead for 10 years)

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What are we at, 5-1 here?

And ya'll are worried about the ONE?

I don't think the Ravens are that short sighted, sorry.

Unless the chiefs blow them away with an offer, he’s not coming to kc

Kc will continue to dominate as long as Mahomes and andy are here either way, a legit LT just increases the odds

So yeah, don’t trade them one. Make them find one a harder way.

He’s not coming to kc