Football Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT - Page 41

Sofa King · 02-10-2021, 01:40 PM

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)

https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt

It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.

If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

My gut feeling and all the draft analytics and FA history indicates Walker Little or someone similar in the Eric Fisher/Mitch Schwartz mold will be the #31 selection if they go for a LT

Who do you think that is outside of Little? I mean, I see some similarities between Fisher and Spencer Brown in terms of college experience and some measurables.

**BigRedChief** · 04-15-2021, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not sure I'd trade next year's first AND this year's for O Brown but I'd definitely trade this year's for him if we're going to take a tackle anyway.

He's decent, he's young, and we know he can play in the NFL. He's basically Eichenberg or Jenkins without the "can he play in the NFL" question mark.

I would definitely trade 31 for him.

Now if they want two firsts, then that's a no for me.

Same. They throw in a 4th or something next year too. Make the deal. But, draft picks are a key way to keep talent around Mahomes as our core group ages and contract hits go up. We cant just willy nilly throw them away for a chance at a SB this year. As long as Mahomes is upright, we will have a chance at a SB.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Same. They throw in a 4th or something next year too. Make the deal. But, draft picks are a key way to keep talent around Mahomes as our core group ages and contract hits go up. We cant just willy nilly throw them away for a chance at a SB this year. As long as Mahomes is upright, we will have a chance at a SB.

To be fair, Orlando Brown Jr. is only 24 years old. He's actually 8 months YOUNGER than Patrick Mahomes himself.

ModSocks · 04-15-2021, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea I expect Jenkins to be a Bear, Colt, or Steeler barring a trade up.

Yeah that sounds right. I think he's gonna be a Steeler.

ModSocks · 04-15-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Not sure I'd trade next year's first AND this year's for O Brown but I'd definitely trade this year's for him if we're going to take a tackle anyway.

He's decent, he's young, and we know he can play in the NFL. He's basically Eichenberg or Jenkins without the "can he play in the NFL" question mark.

I would definitely trade 31 for him.

Now if they want two firsts, then that's a no for me.

mmmhmmmm

This year's first and next year's 2nd. Some shit like that.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 03:50 PM

Or to look at it a different way, Orlando Brown Jr. is 1 year and 10 months older than Teven Jenkins and has started FORTY TWO NFL games.

His age + his experience can't be understated. He's really young for having started almost 2.5 NFL seasons.

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-15-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who do you think that is outside of Little? I mean, I see some similarities between Fisher and Spencer Brown in terms of college experience and some measurables.

Spencer Brown is like Jared Veldheer measurable guy who's a boom or bust prospect.

Concerning preferred style and connection to Reid it would be Brady Christensen in the later rounds but he doesn't hit 33.5 arm length threshold like Schwartz

Sassy Squatch · 04-15-2021, 03:56 PM

Orlando Brown would also require a massive extension before any trade is finalized. Need to factor that in.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Orlando Brown would also require a massive extension before any trade is finalized. Need to factor that in.

This is true.

That's the trade-off for his experience.

With a rookie, you're getting all of the question marks that come with it. You're also getting 4 years of a rookie contract (or 5 if he's a first rounder).

Personally, if I'm going to trade away first round picks, I'm going the Brown route.

If I want a rookie, I'm going to sit tight at 31 and see how the draft works out, with an eye towards a LT at 63.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 04-15-2021, 04:00 PM

I’m still thinking we re sign Schwartz. He’s even said the plan is to never leave KC. KC is his forever home. If he’s healthy enough I’d re sign him

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

I’m still thinking we re sign Schwartz. He’s even said the plan is to never leave KC. KC is his forever home. If he’s healthy enough I’d re sign him

So then we have 4 guys that can play RT at least part time (Niang, Remmers, Long, and Schwartz) and still no left tackle.

I don't see how bringing Schwartz back helps anything now that they've brought back Remmers and signed Long.

big nasty kcnut · 04-15-2021, 04:03 PM

I trade our second rounder for this year and next year for him.

Sassy Squatch · 04-15-2021, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

I trade our second rounder for this year and next year for him.

Not enough if the Ravens are already looking at 1st + player/pick.

Chris Meck · 04-15-2021, 04:10 PM

I think we're all forgetting that there's no way in hell the Ravens are going to trade Brown to KC anyway.

We're literally the team they hate most in the world.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

I trade our second rounder for this year and next year for him.

They're on record as wanting a top 40 pick. Our 2nd rounder is a non-starter.

02-10-2021, 01:40 PM
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1082096 VARSITY	Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT Moving on from Fisher? Probably not. Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made. Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft. Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.) https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last. Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport. Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal. Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season. Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles. Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking. After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway. If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Or to look at it a different way, Orlando Brown Jr. is 1 year and 10 months older than Teven Jenkins and has started FORTY TWO NFL games. His age + his experience can't be understated. He's really young for having started almost 2.5 NFL seasons.
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Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1944910	I think we're all forgetting that there's no way in hell the Ravens are going to trade Brown to KC anyway. We're literally the team they hate most in the world.
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