Football Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT - Page 33

Sofa King · 02-10-2021, 01:40 PM

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)

https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt

It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.

If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.

**BossChief** · 04-15-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

He also takes plays off and plays down to lesser competition. Comes from an offense that didn’t drop back a ton in pass sets.

If it’s true that he didn’t give up a single sack or QB hit, what plays did he take off?

**BossChief** · 04-15-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's going to take next year's first and probably this year's 3rd or next year's 2nd. At least.

If we start at the Patrick Mahomes trade and factor in the trades that have been made so far this offseason, that's what you're looking at - this year's first and third, and next year's first.

If he turns out to be a franchise LT that protects the GOAT, that would be looked at as a bargain, in retrospect.

staylor26 · 04-15-2021, 09:51 AM

I think people are really underestimating how all the weirdness that COVID has created could potentially affect this draft.

The draft almost always plays out differently than anybody could have expected, especially after the first 3-5 picks, but this draft in particular could play out much differently than we think.

That’s why I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If he turns out to be a franchise LT that protects the GOAT, that would be looked at as a bargain, in retrospect.

And if he doesn't turn out to be that, it once again robs the Chiefs of valuable chances at recovering from the mistake.

They can't keep trading away draft picks like that.

Chris Meck · 04-15-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I think people are really underestimating how all the weirdness that COVID has created could potentially affect this draft.

The draft almost always plays out differently than anybody could have expected, especially after the first 3-5 picks, but this draft in particular could play out much differently than we think.

That’s why I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

I've been saying this since February.

and that I think we're somewhat uniquely situated to take advantage being so organizationally stable.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I think people are really underestimating how all the weirdness that COVID has created could potentially affect this draft.

The draft almost always plays out differently than anybody could have expected, especially after the first 3-5 picks, but this draft in particular could play out much differently than we think.

That’s why I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

Trust me, I have an open mind. What actually plays out two weeks from now is anybody's guess, including mine.

This is just where we are right now in discussing it.

I mean, we could be talking about DWI or COVID.

staylor26 · 04-15-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Trust me, I have an open mind. What actually plays out two weeks from now is anybody's guess, including mine.

This is just where we are right now in discussing it.

I mean, we could be talking about DWI or COVID.

Lol true that!

staylor26 · 04-15-2021, 09:56 AM

So Pest and htismaqe,

If Jenkins were to slip into the mid 20’s and the Chiefs gave up a 2022 day 2 pick to move up and get him, how would you feel about that?

What if they don’t like Cosmi’s arm length, think Leatherwood is a G, and they don’t want to risk having to make a move for Forsythe, Little, or Brown because those guys will be in high demand in the 2nd?

**The Franchise** · 04-15-2021, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If it’s true that he didn’t give up a single sack or QB hit, what plays did he take off?

You can take plays off and not give up sacks. Not every play is the same.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Lol true that!

At the end of the day, I'm here to talk football and make jokes about SuperTurtle. I'm fresh out of jokes about SuperTurtle.

htismaqe · 04-15-2021, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

So Pest and htismaqe,

If Jenkins were to slip into the mid 20’s and the Chiefs gave up a 2022 day 2 pick to move up and get him, how would you feel about that?

What if they don’t like Cosmi’s arm length, think Leatherwood is a G, and they don’t want to risk having to make a move for Forsythe, Little, or Brown because those guys will be in high demand in the 2nd?

Cosmi is 6'6" with 33 and 3/8" arms.

Jenkins is 6'5" with 32 and 7/8" arm length.

If they traded up for Jenkins because Cosmi's arms are too short, I'd have to insist that they get fitted for bifocals.

**The Franchise** · 04-15-2021, 10:03 AM

Matt Miller released his top 100.

21. Darrisaw
31. Jenkins
36. Cosmi
43. Little
52. Eichenberg
53. Hudson
58. Radunz
59. Mayfield
66. Leatherwood
68. Forsythe
77. Brown

**The Franchise** · 04-15-2021, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Cosmi is 6'6" with 33 and 3/8" arms.

Jenkins is 6'5" with 32 and 7/8" arm length.

If they traded up for Jenkins because Cosmi's arms are too short, I'd have to insist that they get fitted for bifocals.

Jenkins arms aren’t that short. ESPN has it wrong.

staylor26 · 04-15-2021, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Cosmi is 6'6" with 33 and 3/8" arms.

Jenkins is 6'5" with 32 and 7/8" arm length.

If they traded up for Jenkins because Cosmi's arms are too short, I'd have to insist that they get fitted for bifocals.

Yea those measurements on Jenkins arms are wrong and I could’ve sworn Cosmi’s were just 33”.

staylor26 · 04-15-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Jenkins arms aren’t that short. ESPN has it wrong.

You didn’t answer my question buddy!

How would you feel about that trade?

02-10-2021, 01:40 PM
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1082096 VARSITY	Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT Moving on from Fisher? Probably not. Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made. Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft. Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.) https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last. Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport. Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal. Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season. Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles. Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking. After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway. If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1799040	So Pest and htismaqe, If Jenkins were to slip into the mid 20’s and the Chiefs gave up a 2022 day 2 pick to move up and get him, how would you feel about that? What if they don’t like Cosmi’s arm length, think Leatherwood is a G, and they don’t want to risk having to make a move for Forsythe, Little, or Brown because those guys will be in high demand in the 2nd?
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