Decision to be made on #1 four days before draft

[ChiefMojo]

Dion Jordan is worth the #1 pick IMO among Joeckel and Fisher.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

So who are the 4 ?

Larry, Moe, Curley and Shemp.

[O.city]

I still think it will be either of the LT's, which sucks. I'd rather take a pass rusher with alot of upside. Although, taking Ansah at 1 would be a monster risk.

[O.city]

At 1, you're looking for a generational guy. I don't really see a day 1 Von Miller guy sitting there. Even the LT's will take some time, probably not as much as some of the others.

[keg in kc]

All of the guys we're talking about at 1.1 would be borderline middle- to late-first picks in a stronger draft class. It's really just a bunch of guys. Which doesn't mean that some of them won't be stars. But there's nobody special. At all. None of these prospects are really even close to 1.1 value in a normal year. Talk about Geno not being Luck all you want, but there's no Suh or Pace or Megatron or Deion or Peppers in this draft. Not even close. It's like the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

All of the guys we're talking about at 1.1 would be borderline middle- to late-first picks in a stronger draft class. It's really just a bunch of guys. Which doesn't mean that some of them won't be stars. But there's nobody special. At all. None of these prospects are really even close to 1.1 value in a normal year. Talk about Geno not being Luck all you want, but there's no Suh or Pace or Megatron or Deion or Peppers in this draft. Not even close. It's like the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

This.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

All of the guys we're talking about at 1.1 would be borderline middle- to late-first picks in a stronger draft class. It's really just a bunch of guys. Which doesn't mean that some of them won't be stars. But there's nobody special. At all. None of these prospects are really even close to 1.1 value in a normal year. Talk about Geno not being Luck all you want, but there's no Suh or Pace or Megatron or Deion or Peppers in this draft. Not even close. It's like the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

It's 2009 without a Matthew Stafford. KC is picking the wrong years to suck.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

All of the guys we're talking about at 1.1 would be borderline middle- to late-first picks in a stronger draft class. It's really just a bunch of guys. Which doesn't mean that some of them won't be stars. But there's nobody special. At all. None of these prospects are really even close to 1.1 value in a normal year. Talk about Geno not being Luck all you want, but there's no Suh or Pace or Megatron or Deion or Peppers in this draft. Not even close. It's like the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

All of the guys we're talking about at 1.1 would be borderline middle- to late-first picks in a stronger draft class. It's really just a bunch of guys. Which doesn't mean that some of them won't be stars. But there's nobody special. At all. None of these prospects are really even close to 1.1 value in a normal year. Talk about Geno not being Luck all you want, but there's no Suh or Pace or Megatron or Deion or Peppers in this draft. Not even close. It's like the dirty little secret nobody wants to admit.

wrong again. It's a strong draft for offensive tackles and defensive line. As I've argued with you on this in another thread, you have absolutely NO proof outside of your own opinion that this is not a strong draft for tackles. NONE.

Fact is, this is a strong draft for offensive tackles which is a keystone player in the NFL. This happens to be an extremely deep draft for defensive line too.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

wrong again. It's a strong draft for offensive tackles and defensive line. As I've argued with you on this in another thread, you have absolutely NO proof outside of your own opinion that this is not a strong draft for tackles. NONE.

Fact is, this is a strong draft for offensive tackles which is a keystone player in the NFL. This happens to be an extremely deep draft for defensive line too.

It's a DEEP class. It's not a top heavy class.

Perfect if you're the Patriots or Niners and drafting at the back ends with a billion middle round picks.

****ing shitty if you're in the top 10.

2009 wasn't even a deep class. At least this one is loaded with good value later on.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by SNR

It's a DEEP class. It's not a top heavy class.

Perfect if you're the Patriots or Niners and drafting at the back ends with a billion middle round picks.

****ing shitty if you're in the top 10.

2009 wasn't even a deep class. At least this one is loaded with good value later on.

Yep, it's deep for defensive line and top heavy for tackles. Just because kc doesn't necessarily need a tackle does not mean this is a weak draft class for tackles. In fact, it's probably the best draft class for tackles since 2008.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Yep, it's deep for defensive line and top heavy for tackles. Just because kc doesn't necessarily need a tackle does not mean this is a weak draft class for tackles. In fact, it's probably the best draft class for tackles since 2008.

What?

How is this a deep tackle draft?

Johnson is a converted QB, DE and TE.

Joeckel wasn't even the best offensive tackle on his college team.

Fisher played at Central Michigan and will have a steep curve ahead of him.

DJ Fluker is most likely a guard.

Long and Pugh are just guys.

In fact, I like guys like Ricky Wagner, Tanner Hawkinson and Oday Aboushi as much as Johnson, Fisher and Joeckel.

And, as I said previously, I'd take Barrett Jones before any of them.

[The Franchise]

This draft is going to be all about who you think has the highest upside and potential at 1.1.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

This draft is going to be all about who you think has the highest upside and potential at 1.1.

This.


Some have started to really like Ansah, but man .......that would be an extremely risky pick. I get the upside, but dude could be Maybin 2.0.

[ChiefMojo]

If that is the case then I see Jordan, Ansah and Fisher with the biggest upside.