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Old 06-11-2019, 07:28 PM   #1
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:42 PM   #2
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The shit on Chris Jones is the CP version of 2/10 pointy elbows would not bang
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:05 PM   #3
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Wait chiefsplanet has pointy elbows too?

Twoplustwo.com has the exact same reference. Wtf
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:34 PM   #4
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I don't know why some of you are even wringing hands. Deal will be done and at slightly more than the last player to get paid for the position

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Old 06-11-2019, 10:15 PM   #5
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I don't know why some of you are even wringing hands. Deal will be done and at slightly more than the last player to get paid for the position

Duh.
More than Aaron Donald?
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More than Aaron Donald, Ronald McDonald, and old Mac Donald on his mother****ing farm.

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Old 06-12-2019, 12:15 AM   #7
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Old 06-12-2019, 05:10 AM   #8
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Many reports say he wants Donald money. No way in hell should we do that. No DL is worth that. Jones is all about the money so let him sit until he comes down to reality.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:28 AM   #9
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I guess somebody doesn’t want to help MVPII win a SB. Don’t see MVP holding out and he is the MVP of the league. Somebody is getting bad advice.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:40 AM   #10
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After these last few offseasons I don't get how anybody could be in favor of waiting another season to pay him, unless you're just absolutely convinced he's not worth it no matter what he does. Wait and see will only bite us in the ass with these contracts rising at an astronomical rate.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:47 AM   #11
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I’m willing to wait one extra year to find out. I think this years defense is much better than last year even without jones. Clark is a better player and we don’t have Houston and berry bad attitude to deal with. I want him on the team just want him to finish his rookie freaking contract of four years. He’s lucky he wasn’t the 32nd pick in the first as we would have him two more years.

With or without him we win the Super Bowl in my opinion, but for jones his agent to bully the chiefs for a top 2 DL contract after one good year when he still has one left I’d wait. We still win the SB. Hell last year with the worst d in football we were a few Ford inches away from the Sb . Love to have him but he needs to finish his four year deal, prove he’s not a flash and then pay him.
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:17 PM   #12
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I’m willing to wait one extra year to find out. I think this years defense is much better than last year even without jones. Clark is a better player and we don’t have Houston and berry bad attitude to deal with. I want him on the team just want him to finish his rookie freaking contract of four years. He’s lucky he wasn’t the 32nd pick in the first as we would have him two more years.

With or without him we win the Super Bowl in my opinion, but for jones his agent to bully the chiefs for a top 2 DL contract after one good year when he still has one left I’d wait. We still win the SB. Hell last year with the worst d in football we were a few Ford inches away from the Sb . Love to have him but he needs to finish his four year deal, prove he’s not a flash and then pay him.
The bolded sentence above proves you are a ****ing tard. Anyone who is against Jones getting paid right now is a ****ing tard.

I'd pay him more than Donald. AD signed his deal when he was 27 years old and will be getting paid when he's 33 years old. He's going to be on the decline sooner rather than later. Jones is gonna be 24, but will be 25 soon and if we give him a 6 year extension he will be 31 at the end of that contract.

I wanted to figure out when D Tackles usually start to become bums, so I looked up the top 10 D Tackles of all time, according to Gil Brandt (old dude at ESPN) and looked up their AV according to Pro Football Reference. The AV of the 50th ranked player was 13. I figure if you were going to pay a guy a ton that you would want them to be at least a top 50 guy. So, when did each of the top 10 d-tackle's AV go below 13.

Curley Culp - never had a 13 AV, but had a 12 at age 29 and started to decline after.
John Randle - 31 and only had one more season that he hit 10 AV
Buck Buchanon - 30 and only one more season of 10 AV
Cortez Kennedy - 26, but had an outlier at age 31 and had a 13 AV.
Arnie Weinmeister - No AV info
Warren Sapp - 30, had a 12 AV at 31, but fell off cliff after that and never did better than a 7 AV
Randy White - 32
Merlin Olsen - 30
Joe Greene - 30
Bob Lilly - 30

So the average age that these guys started to go down hill was 29.777, so round up to 30. I'd rather be paying Chris Jones $20+ mil/year during his prime years over paying Aaron Donald $20+ mil/year during 3-4 years of his prime and 2-3 years of him sucking shit. Paying Jones is the better deal and you could even argue that Jones deserves more, since you are paying for all of his prime years.

Also to all the idiots saying "well he's only done it for 1 year", look up all of those guys stats. Only 1 of those players hit their prime in year 1, C. Kennedy, and Sapp hit his in year 3. All of the others didn't hit their prime until year 4 or 5. All of these guys are in the HoF. With the trajectory of most D Tackles and the switch to a 4-3, Jones is going to have a huge year and be even more expensive or just pissed with how he was treated and walk away the first chance he has.

Pay the man, Veach.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:42 AM   #14
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