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Old 02-05-2017, 03:46 PM   #1
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You make this kind of claim, you need to provide links.

Otherwise you are just talking out of your ass.
I agree and have seen Mahomes as far down as the 8th rated QB in this class. There isn't a lot of consistency among the "experts" on where he'll go.

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Note that quote was written before the National Championship game even started (1-11-17 @ 7:40 PM Eastern). From what I have read, most scouts had him going in the 2nd round before that game. His stock soared after it.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:59 PM   #2
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Note that quote was written before the National Championship game even started (1-11-17 @ 7:40 PM Eastern). From what I have read, most scouts had him going in the 2nd round before that game.
Vince Young had a big national championship performance too....

I'm not letting one game gloss over the issues that Watson has. He could overcome them, but I'd be skeptical to say the least if the Chiefs take him.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:25 PM   #3
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Vince Young had a big national championship performance too....

I'm not letting one game gloss over the issues that Watson has. He could overcome them, but I'd be skeptical to say the least if the Chiefs take him.
Watson is a leader. He's lead a ton of comebacks. Vince you did the same in the championship but, he also did terrible on the wonderlick for example. Didn't he score a six?

Watson graduated High a School and College early. There are so many differences man. They aren't the same player. Maybe physically? But mentally? I compare Watson to Russell Wilson.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:54 PM   #4
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Watson is a leader. He's lead a ton of comebacks. Vince you did the same in the championship but, he also did terrible on the wonderlick for example. Didn't he score a six?

Watson graduated High a School and College early. There are so many differences man. They aren't the same player. Maybe physically? But mentally? I compare Watson to Russell Wilson.
Watson's ceiling IMO is Mariota. A lot of similarities there. If he falls in the right system and is surrounded with the right pieces, I think he could be that type of QB.
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Old 02-05-2017, 04:57 PM   #5
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Spit on it before you polish it boys.

Save some for Alex as he leads the CHIEFS next year...
...to a season devoid of a playoff appearance.
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...to a season devoid of a playoff appearance.
I will take that bet.
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I will take that bet.
My CP betting ended with sending RNR off to the Land of Forgotten Shame.
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Old 02-05-2017, 05:00 PM   #8
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Watson's ceiling IMO is Mariota. A lot of similarities there. If he falls in the right system and is surrounded with the right pieces, I think he could be that type of QB.
I'm more than happy to take a guy with the poise and guts to win and coach him up, then a talented guy who's average in the clutch. I agree on the Mariota comparison. But I think Watson brings in a 4Q mentality that Mariota didn't (Mariota, on the other hand, was more NFL ready).

The Chiefs' system would be great for him. Reid took two freelancers, Vick and McNabb, and made the system work for them. He can do it for Watson. And having Alex Smith under contract for only 1-2 more years is ideal because it gives time to develop.

I'm cool with either Watson or Mahomes. But I just see an "it" factor in Watson that can't be coached. The guy is fearless in the 4Q.
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I'm more than happy to take a guy with the poise and guts to win and coach him up, then a talented guy who's average in the clutch. I agree on the Mariota comparison. But I think Watson brings in a 4Q mentality that Mariota didn't (Mariota, on the other hand, was more NFL ready).

The Chiefs' system would be great for him. Reid took two freelancers, Vick and McNabb, and made the system work for them. He can do it for Watson. And having Alex Smith under contract for only 1-2 more years is ideal because it gives time to develop.

I'm cool with either Watson or Mahomes. But I just see an "it" factor in Watson that can't be coached. The guy is fearless in the 4Q.
Talk about a 180 turn. Might be worth watching on a weekly basis.
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Old 02-05-2017, 07:35 PM   #10
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Talk about a 180 turn. Might be worth watching on a weekly basis.
All you need to do is put together a few good games at the end of the season. Eli is a normal regular season QB, but was a killer in 2 playoff runs in the 4Q. Maybe he doesn't shine until games become critically important. I just look at back to back years where his 4Q performance wasn't just good, it was off the charts in the biggest game of the season.
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