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Old 11-06-2018, 03:34 PM   #1
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:39 PM   #2
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Must be nice to be considered a dynasty when you get 6 guaranteed ****ing wins every year.
Patriots W-L record inside and outside the division is basically the same during the Belichick/Brady era. The reality is that the Patriots have dominated across the board during their ridiculous run. It's not just getting fat on easy wins within the division. They've kicked ass across the board.

Sorry to ruin your narrative though!

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Old 11-06-2018, 03:46 PM   #3
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Patriots W-L record inside and outside the division is basically the same during the Belichick/Brady era. The reality is that the Patriots have dominated across the board during their ridiculous run. It's not just getting fat on easy wins within the division. They've kicked ass across the board.
That's great - the point is that if the teams in the AFC East could come up with any kind of quality over a sustained period, the Patriots would play WORSE than their record against opponents who are less familiar with them and are playing without divisional tensions on the line.

You're not really going to argue that those haven't been 3 of the 5 worst run teams in the AFC for the last 20 years, are you? The Dolphins are probably the MOST successful of the lot and the best you can say about them is that they aren't generally embarrassing.

It's a bad division.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:48 AM   #4
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That's great - the point is that if the teams in the AFC East could come up with any kind of quality over a sustained period, the Patriots would play WORSE than their record against opponents who are less familiar with them and are playing without divisional tensions on the line.

You're not really going to argue that those haven't been 3 of the 5 worst run teams in the AFC for the last 20 years, are you? The Dolphins are probably the MOST successful of the lot and the best you can say about them is that they aren't generally embarrassing.

It's a bad division.
Yes it is a mediocre division. Over 20 years, though, is it really much worse than the AFC South was for nearly all of those years, when it was Colts/Manning and a bunch of punching bags? How about NFC North where it was Favre/Rogers and three joke franchises most years. NFC West, with Seahawks and three lame ones?

One problem is that the Patriots run has been so ridiculously LONG. Usually teams aren't mediocre for that long, but as one team declines, another rises up. The Patriots haven't declined, so they just always hand out losses to those other teams, and they have not fared well.

The right way to do this would be to compare inter-divisional games, but I'm not going to bother with that. Is it a mediocre division? Absolutely. Has it been the ABSOLUTE WORST DIVISION IN FOOTBALL for 20 years? Nah.
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Old 11-06-2018, 03:53 PM   #5
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Patriots W-L record inside and outside the division is basically the same during the Belichick/Brady era. The reality is that the Patriots have dominated across the board during their ridiculous run. It's not just getting fat on easy wins within the division. They've kicked ass across the board.

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Of course they've been good across the board. But it still makes things a lot easier when that division has been utter pony shit for most of the past 2 decades.
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Patriots W-L record inside and outside the division is basically the same during the Belichick/Brady era. The reality is that the Patriots have dominated across the board during their ridiculous run. It's not just getting fat on easy wins within the division. They've kicked ass across the board.

Sorry to ruin your narrative though!

Congrats on beating up on a trash division for 20 years!
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Patriots W-L record inside and outside the division is basically the same during the Belichick/Brady era. The reality is that the Patriots have dominated across the board during their ridiculous run. It's not just getting fat on easy wins within the division. They've kicked ass across the board.

Sorry to ruin your narrative though!
Yea, but when you have the 'week off' against crappy opponents 6-plus weeks a season it's helpful. It allows a team to game plan/scout further out, break out new plays and get healthy for their harder opponents etc.
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I think the relentless run of victories shows just how significant the issues relating to those ridiculous scandals were to their victories. Of course, if the NFL hadn't robbed them of multiple draft picks for bogus reasons their winning percentage might be even higher!

But that's ok. They've done fine even without.
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Need Mariota to play like he did last night. What are the odds of that happening? Probably not good. Another example of New England dodging bullets. They go on the road in a week where the inconsistent home QB is bound to crash back to Earth after a great one-off game against the Cowboys.
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Need Mariota to play like he did last night. What are the odds of that happening? Probably not good. Another example of New England dodging bullets. They go on the road in a week where the inconsistent home QB is bound to crash back to Earth after a great one-off game against the Cowboys.
Mariota is Young Alex through and through. Watch him play much and the similarities are striking.

And the Pats like to fall into those shells and force teams to beat them in the red zone. Mariota doesn't have the arm strength or chops to pull that off, IMO.

I think Mariota gets them a bunch of FGs in that game and maybe a TD; something like 22 points off 5 FGs and a touch. The Patriots will give him between the 20s and bottle him up when he gets down there.
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Win out and not a single shit will be given what NE does.
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