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Old 12-17-2018, 08:56 AM  
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Marcus Peters has a nice conversation with a fan.

https://mobile.twitter.com/h8rproof8...73015412178944

He seems nice. Also, what the hell is security doing?
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:50 PM   #91
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Some people might want to familiarize themselves with the impact of Peters being in a scheme that doesn't fit his skill set before continuing with the Marcus Peters in the Rams defense vs. Orlando Scandrick in the Chiefs defense comparison.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...w-patriots-wr1

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How can a fourth-year pro with a resume that already includes a Defensive Rookie of the Year award, a first-team All-Pro nod and 20 career interceptions fail to fit into a system run by Wade Phillips, one of the top defensive minds in football?

"He's being asked to play a style that doesn't fit his skill set," a former Pro Bowl cornerback familiar with Peters' game and the Rams' scheme told me. "He is a zone corner who needs to play off, clue the quarterback and jump routes. He's a smart player with terrific instincts and ball skills, but he's not able to put those traits into practice because he's playing more press coverage and spending most of his time at the line of scrimmage."

To that point, Peters is indeed widely viewed as an instinctive playmaker at the position in football circles. Coaches rave about his ball skills and diagnostic ability. When he's locked in and focused, No. 22 is one of the best in the business at reading routes on the perimeter and aggressively breaking on throws based on clues from the quarterback or wide receiver. Peters has mastered "key the three" technique (defensive backs will anticipate routes based on the quarterback's drop) and has a keen understanding of hash-split rules (defensive backs anticipate wide receivers' routes based on alignment in relation to where the ball is positioned on a hash), which has played a huge role in his success as a playmaker.

Studying the All-22 tape from Peters' time in Kansas City and Los Angeles, I can confirm that he has always been at his best when he sits off at a distance and reads routes. Although he is a bit of a risk taker on the perimeter, Peters is a calculated gambler who jumps routes based on clues gathered from film study. His uncanny ability to squat on short and intermediate routes makes him susceptible to double moves, but it also results in a lot of interceptions and pass breakups.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:51 PM   #92
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Some people might want to familiarize themselves with the impact of Peters being in a scheme that doesn't fit his skill set before continuing to embarrass yourself with your Marcus Peters in the Rams defense vs. Orlando Scandrick in the Chiefs defense comparison.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...w-patriots-wr1
Which in no way shape or form explains his shit play last season.

You may also want to famliarize yourself with where Scandrick has played most of his career.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:52 PM   #93
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Which in no way shape or form explains his shit play last season.
So his PFF grade from 2017 was 11 points higher than Orlando Scandrick's current grade because...?

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Old 12-17-2018, 02:55 PM   #94
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So his PFF grade from 2017 was 11 points higher than Orlando Scandrick's current grade because...?

If the Rams defense isn’t scheme fit for Peters how can you for sure know Scandrick is a good scheme fit for Chiefs D?

And how can you compare if they fit in a scheme or not?

If one fits in a scheme and the other doesn’t how can you compare them in that scheme?

Why not just go what we are seeing this year instead of trying to compare this year last year other years?

Both are playing like shit this year
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:57 PM   #95
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So his PFF grade from 2017 was 11 points higher than Orlando Scandrick's current grade because...?


You are grading Peters last season vs Scandrick this season and then just assuming Peters was going to play just as shitty as he did last year with no fall off even though the entire rest of the defense has fallen off?

I'm still confident Scandrick has given up fewer TD's this season than Peters did last season.

This is ****ing stupid argument anyway, I should have rembered the whole wrestling with pigs thing.
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Old 12-17-2018, 02:59 PM   #96
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If the Rams defense isn’t scheme fit for Peters how can you for sure know Scandrick is a good scheme fit for Chiefs D?

And how can you compare if they fit in a scheme or not?

If one fits in a scheme and the other doesn’t how can you compare them in that scheme?

Why not just go what we are seeing this year instead of trying to compare this year last year other years?

Both are playing like shit this year
It is possible that bad scheme fit is a reason for Scandrick's struggles, although he had issues with holding/DPI penalties in Dallas as well.

The point is he is a significant downgrade from the player he is replacing from last year (Marcus Peters), which was put on full display in the Chargers game.
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Old 12-17-2018, 03:02 PM   #97
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Some people might want to familiarize themselves with the impact of Peters being in a scheme that doesn't fit his skill set before continuing with the Marcus Peters in the Rams defense vs. Orlando Scandrick in the Chiefs defense comparison.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...w-patriots-wr1
So then who's fault is it? The Rams for trading for a CB that doesn't fit their system?
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Old 12-17-2018, 03:17 PM   #98
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Hey PFF has all of KC's corners graded as above average. I guess all those yards are coming only against safety coverage.
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Old 12-17-2018, 03:28 PM   #99
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Peter's has been shit in coverge and last night let a RB score a TD rather than attempt a tackle. I can't believe anyone is still dying on that hill. How embarrassing for you and him.
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Old 12-17-2018, 03:33 PM   #100
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:00 PM   #101
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And yet was still rated as the third best CB in the NFL by PFF metrics.
why dont you post that whole list?

the only thing (IIRc) he beat any of the top 10 in was int's. he gave up the 2nd highest DPI yards n the top 12 also.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:10 PM   #102
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I love Peters, but this shit is not OK.
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Old 12-17-2018, 04:24 PM   #103
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why dont you post that whole list?

the only thing (IIRc) he beat any of the top 10 in was int's. he gave up the 2nd highest DPI yards n the top 12 also.
I don't appear to be able to get a grade over multiple years, but on PFF's "defense" grade he has never made the top 15 for a season, same on their "coverage" grade
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I love Peters, but this shit is not OK.
Lol none of that is gang banger. It's normal shit talk.
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