Alex Smith: The 49ers were completely dysfunctional

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

33 isn't all that old for a QB. If he was consistently playing like he did last Thursday, we probably would not have traded up in the first round to draft a QB.

Aaron Rodgers is 33 and you don't see the Packers drafting a replacement yet. I think Mahomes is worth the pick, and picks we gave up to get him, but probably not this year if our qb was Aaron Rodgers. It has nothing to do with the value of Mahomes, but the need on the team.

But you know that. You're just being a prick.

I completely disagree, if it came to light that we could have acquired Mahomes at the price we paid and didn't because our 33yo QB probably still had a few years left, I'd be pissed. Particularly if it came to light in the week after we lost another year of Eric Berry.

IF YOU truly are all in on this shit about elite franchise QBs being the only thing that matters anymore in the NFL, you don't half-ass it and grab whomever happens to be available whenever the need arises then cross your fingers and pray. You IDENTIFY generational talent and ACQUIRE him when the opportunity rises.

I'm not 'happy we finally drafted a QB.' I'm happy we drafted Mahomes.

But you know that, you just continue to be a ****.

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I completely disagree, if it came to light that we could have acquired Mahomes at the price we paid and didn't because our 33yo QB probably still had a few years left, I'd be pissed. Particularly if it came to light in the week after we lost another year of Eric Berry.

IF YOU truly are all in on this shit about elite franchise QBs being the only thing that matters anymore in the NFL, you don't half-ass it and grab whomever happens to be available whenever the need arises then cross your fingers and pray. You IDENTIFY generational talent and ACQUIRE him when the opportunity rises.

I'm not 'happy we finally drafted a QB.' I'm happy we drafted Mahomes.

But you know that, you just continue to be a ****.

Well, you are high then. I'm wildly happy we drafted Mahomes, but if the Packers had made the same trade we did to get Mahomes, everyone would be saying "what the ****?"

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

33 isn't all that old for a QB. If he was consistently playing like he did last Thursday, we probably would not have traded up in the first round to draft a QB.

Aaron Rodgers is 33 and you don't see the Packers drafting a replacement yet. I think Mahomes is worth the pick, and picks we gave up to get him, but probably not this year if our qb was Aaron Rodgers. It has nothing to do with the value of Mahomes, but the need on the team.

But you know that. You're just being a prick.

I was saying this spring that Smith is going to be better heading into his mid-30's. A huge percentage of long time vets have played their best ball between 30-36.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by notorious

If plays at 80% of Thursday they are going to destroy everyone on the way to the SB.

I just want him to have those games at the right time.

Can't say it will always be the right time, but I think 80% of is doable now.

Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Why would you feel bad for him? He's making more money this year than you'll ever see in your lifetime, all for playing a game.

Dude is living good.

So much of this. Barring some horrible injury, there can be no feeling bad for this 100 million dollar man at this point.

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

33 isn't all that old for a QB. If he was consistently playing like he did last Thursday, we probably would not have traded up in the first round to draft a QB.

Aaron Rodgers is 33 and you don't see the Packers drafting a replacement yet.

Alex was 20 years old when drafted and he started yr 1.. has multiple concussions, and two surgeries to his throwing shoulder. Rodgers sat for 3? or 4 years.. has he endured any major injuries that compare?

[Eleazar]

Alex may not be a Super Bowl caliber QB, but the primary limitation on this team's ceiling continues to be Reid.

[Titty Meat]

I feel sorry for Alex seems like a great guy whos a good but not great QB.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby

I feel sorry for Alex seems like a great guy whos a good but not great QB.

Why would you feel bad for him? He's making more money this year than you'll ever see in your lifetime, all for playing a game.

Dude is living good.

[DaFace]

For what it's worth, there's a whole series of these videos on the YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBs...DAU5hwN9bGVk_A

[FlintHillsChiefs]

Originally Posted by DaFace

For what it's worth, there's a whole series of these videos on the YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBs...DAU5hwN9bGVk_A

Yep. Slow day at work so I've been watching these. The segment about how he felt losing his job to Kaepernick is great as well as the one about how he wanted to be at KC with Andy Reid.

[JohnV]

Still are. Only person that's been able to cover up the dysfunction since the Yorks took over is Jim Harbaugh, and Alex lovers swear he can't coach in this league lol

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Originally Posted by JohnV

Still are. Only person that's been able to cover up the dysfunction since the Yorks took over is Jim Harbaugh, and Alex lovers swear he can't coach in this league lol

Who said this? Provide links.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by JohnV

Still are. Only person that's been able to cover up the dysfunction since the Yorks took over is Jim Harbaugh, and Alex lovers swear he can't coach in this league lol

What? Jim Harbaugh is a ridiculously good coach.


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[GayFrogs]

I was reminded of this

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Originally Posted by Mav

What? Jim Harbaugh is a ridiculously good coach.


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Yea he just made something up to label Smith supporters as complete Harbaugh haters. Harbaugh is undoubtedly a talented coach that can turn any organization around. He's done it at least 4 times now.

The reason things went downhill in San Fran is a messed up front office who couldn't handle Harbaugh's personality (also, Stanford had major issues with him and his very controlling ways), in addition, there were reportedly several players that were going to management saying they didn't trust him. And like Graham stated in one of his videos, many of those Niners vets confided to Alex that it was a sinking ship once the trust was broken.

[A8bil]

Originally Posted by JohnV

Still are. Only person that's been able to cover up the dysfunction since the Yorks took over is Jim Harbaugh, and Alex lovers swear he can't coach in this league lol

I think the Harbaugh legacy is a bit more complicated than you think. Harbaugh does have a great track record of coming in and leveraging existing assets to make very competitive teams. He also has a track record of wearing out his welcome, and he has thus far been unable to have sustained success.

When he took over the 49ers they had an immense amount of talent. Their offensive line was almost all first round talent. Gore was still in his prime. Crabtree was in his prime. Vernon Davis was an allstar...their linebackers were the best in football. Justin Smith may have been the best all around lineman in the League. 10 years of sucking had allowed them to stockpile a ton of talent, and Harbaugh knew that. All they needed was some good (not great) coaching, and Fangio and Roman brought that. Problem was that as they lost that talent to retirement, or contract issues, and did not replace it because of poor drafting and poor choices, they started to decline and the lack of truly great coaching caught up. Fangio was writing checks on defensive calls that the players couldn't cash. Roman's quirky "tackle eligibles," became predictable. People often forget that the 49ers were 8-8 for Harbaugh's last year. As they became less talented, they needed better execution, something they could not get from Kaepernick and their diminished roster.

Funny thing is when Smith got benched in the 2012 season, he was 6-2-1 and was playing some of the best ball of his life. Geep Chryst has finally provided some coaching stability, and you could see the improvement in Alex's play...then he got benched, for no apparent reason other than Harbaugh's infatuation with Kaepernick's running ability. Alex had one of the all-time great games for the 49ers in the 2011 playoffs against New Orleans, and with two long TDs to Vernon Davis in the NFC Championship game (despite a steady rain) it looked like he had sealed the game, but two really stupid plays by Kyle Williams gave the game to the Giants and kept the 49ers out of the super bowl. Eli came into that game as one of the hottest QBs in the league, and Alex outplayed him. Many 49ers fans thought KC got the better QB. Turns out, they were right.