Chiefs -- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston? - Page 3

Simply Red · 02-13-2019, 11:51 PM

I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it!

Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter)

I'd like to hear from my people, here.

If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie.

Thanks all!

BleedingRed · 02-14-2019, 08:45 AM

I love him, but he needs to go

Great Expectations · 02-14-2019, 08:53 AM

Keep Houston, left Ford walk, sign Collins. To the ship

ChiefoftheKeyboard · 02-14-2019, 08:59 AM

Landon Collins may get the franchise tag and the giants need a pass rusher. They can also release Olivier Vernon post June 1 from his bloated contract. I'd take Collins and a 3 for Ford all day and I think that's realistic. Then you'd need houston to stay of course.

**BigRedChief** · 02-14-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red

Let me be fair - I'm okay w/ this, too. Houston is better suited for this new switch and it makes far more sense. I just like that free'd money more-so - but that's a solid post my brother. I'm good w/ it.

Better suited or not, we can take Houston's $15 million and get a more impactful defensive player for that kind of money. Again, its just business.

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-14-2019, 09:07 AM

Ride it out with him this year to see how he cuts it in the new 4-3 defense.

If he performs, restructure his contract next year to save money on the cap going forward.

If he continues to drop off, release him after next year with no cap liability and you just freed up $22 million dollars of cap space to use on Hill and Jones new contracts.

oldman · 02-14-2019, 09:08 AM

If it comes down to Houston vs. Ford, it's a no-brainer keeping Houston. Ford is a one-trick pony. I we're going to a 4-3, playing Houston at DE makes a lot more sense than Ford. Speaks will do just fine at the other DE.

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-14-2019, 09:08 AM

But if they decide he doesn't 'fit' this defense and/or the new D coaches think they'll be better off w/o him and possibly using his money elsewhere, then just cut him now and be done with it.

Eleazar · 02-14-2019, 10:06 AM

Letting him go is probably the right move, but I could still be on board with keeping him another year to see how the new scheme might help him contribute something to the defense that is more commensurate to his salary.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:09 AM

I too would rather keep Houston than Ford. All I know is they can't keep both of them.

philfree · 02-14-2019, 10:16 AM

9 sacks, 5 FF and 1 INT in 11 games won't be easy to replace. I'm good with keeping Houston but I'd extend him and lower his cap number. That said If Spags doesn't think he fits I'd try and trade him to Romeo Crennel or maybe the Falcons or some place he desires where he'll be okay with re-working his contract so the trade would go through. I wouldn't just cut him because he's still a good player.

Doob02 · 02-14-2019, 10:20 AM

Have to keep him at least another year. I think it best to see how he translates to the new scheme and coaching. Could be a game changer. Regardless I would still try to lower his cap number and ask him to join the mind scheme of the future is now and we have Mahomie!!

**alpha_omega** · 02-14-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Restructure or be gone. Just business. Getting paid like your a top defensive player in the whole NFL. But your at best average these days.

Post #2 seals the deal.

O.city · 02-14-2019, 10:27 AM

I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens.

I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens.

I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.

Injuries are the reason I wouldn't keep Ford.

O.city · 02-14-2019, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Injuries are the reason I wouldn't keep Ford.

I've come to expect them to tag him so I've just kinda moved on, atleast with Ford its' just for a season in which he'll likely play his ass off again for a new deal elsewhere.

02-13-2019, 11:51 PM
Simply Red You Sweetie! Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2021206219 VARSITY	-- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston? I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it! Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter) I'd like to hear from my people, here. If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie. Thanks all!
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02-14-2019, 08:53 AM	#32
Great Expectations MVP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Joplin, MO Casino cash: $13702338	Keep Houston, left Ford walk, sign Collins. To the ship __________________
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02-14-2019, 08:59 AM	#33
ChiefoftheKeyboard Starter Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10000400	Landon Collins may get the franchise tag and the giants need a pass rusher. They can also release Olivier Vernon post June 1 from his bloated contract. I'd take Collins and a 3 for Ford all day and I think that's realistic. Then you'd need houston to stay of course.
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02-14-2019, 09:07 AM	#35
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $5119883	Ride it out with him this year to see how he cuts it in the new 4-3 defense. If he performs, restructure his contract next year to save money on the cap going forward. If he continues to drop off, release him after next year with no cap liability and you just freed up $22 million dollars of cap space to use on Hill and Jones new contracts.
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02-14-2019, 09:08 AM	#36
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	If it comes down to Houston vs. Ford, it's a no-brainer keeping Houston. Ford is a one-trick pony. I we're going to a 4-3, playing Houston at DE makes a lot more sense than Ford. Speaks will do just fine at the other DE.
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02-14-2019, 10:06 AM	#38
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Letting him go is probably the right move, but I could still be on board with keeping him another year to see how the new scheme might help him contribute something to the defense that is more commensurate to his salary.
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02-14-2019, 10:09 AM	#39
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I too would rather keep Houston than Ford. All I know is they can't keep both of them.
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02-14-2019, 10:16 AM	#40
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1666198	9 sacks, 5 FF and 1 INT in 11 games won't be easy to replace. I'm good with keeping Houston but I'd extend him and lower his cap number. That said If Spags doesn't think he fits I'd try and trade him to Romeo Crennel or maybe the Falcons or some place he desires where he'll be okay with re-working his contract so the trade would go through. I wouldn't just cut him because he's still a good player. __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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02-14-2019, 10:20 AM	#41
Doob02 doob02 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic, IA Casino cash: $10008160	Have to keep him at least another year. I think it best to see how he translates to the new scheme and coaching. Could be a game changer. Regardless I would still try to lower his cap number and ask him to join the mind scheme of the future is now and we have Mahomie!!
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02-14-2019, 10:27 AM	#43
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2764064	I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens. I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.
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