Chiefs Checking in on the Young Guns: The QB's

Chris Meck · 12-22-2019, 12:02 PM

The discussion on Josh Allen got me thinking about the young QB's in the league and what everyone thinks about 1)where they are and 2)what they'll be.

For discussion's sake, lets say 2016 draft on. If we included the 2015 draft, we'd be including like Jameis Winston, and I just kind of feel like that's the cut-off at which I consider that age to be veteran now and not still developing in any way.

So we're talking about these guys:

2016-
Jared Goff-I think he's a system guy. Nice measurables, not a gutsy leader-type. You can win with that guy, but you won't win BECAUSE of that guy.

Carson Wentz-pretty much the same as Goff.

Dak Prescott-a very poor man's Russell Wilson. You can win WITH him, but not BECAUSE of him. I think he's overrated.

2017-

Trubisky-what a sham. 'Most NFL ready'. My ass. He's mentally soft. BUST.
Mahomes-a generational talent, what a steal.
Watson-One of those guys that's better than his physical talent says he should be. Gusty, tough, a winner. I thought he'd bust, but I think I was wrong.

2018-

Mayfield-regressed this year but the whole coaching staff is shite. I still expect Baker to bounce back.

Jackson-man, another one I was wrong on. I still don't think it's sustainable long term, but until his knees give out, he's damned dangerous.

Josh Allen-I know a lot of y'all think he's a bum; I see inconsistency due to some iffy fundamentals, i.e. footwork, etc. I think he's got as much raw ability as anyone. We'll see.

Josh Rosen-two teams gave up on him. I think he's a bust. I think Andy could salvage him if he wants to come sit behind Patrick.

Sam Darnold-This is my 'Josh Allen' in that I don't see a single ****ing thing about Darnold that says 'NFL QB'. I think he's a bum, and a big old bust.

2019-
Kyler Murray-man, maybe? I don't know. The interviews pre-draft were so bad I really couldn't see him as a leader of men. Nice athlete. I think he'll tease for a couple of years, but I don't see a star in the NFL there.

Gardner Minshew-You know, I have a soft spot for the scrappy guys that nobody wanted. He appears to be game-smart, pretty accurate, and the kind of guy people rally around. We'll see, but I think he's a serviceable NFL QB there and JAX hasn't really had that in...well...ever.

What do you guys think? Am I missing anyone?

12-22-2019, 12:02 PM	Topic Starter
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1814910	Checking in on the Young Guns: The QB's The discussion on Josh Allen got me thinking about the young QB's in the league and what everyone thinks about 1)where they are and 2)what they'll be. For discussion's sake, lets say 2016 draft on. If we included the 2015 draft, we'd be including like Jameis Winston, and I just kind of feel like that's the cut-off at which I consider that age to be veteran now and not still developing in any way. So we're talking about these guys: 2016- Jared Goff-I think he's a system guy. Nice measurables, not a gutsy leader-type. You can win with that guy, but you won't win BECAUSE of that guy. Carson Wentz-pretty much the same as Goff. Dak Prescott-a very poor man's Russell Wilson. You can win WITH him, but not BECAUSE of him. I think he's overrated. 2017- Trubisky-what a sham. 'Most NFL ready'. My ass. He's mentally soft. BUST. Mahomes-a generational talent, what a steal. Watson-One of those guys that's better than his physical talent says he should be. Gusty, tough, a winner. I thought he'd bust, but I think I was wrong. 2018- Mayfield-regressed this year but the whole coaching staff is shite. I still expect Baker to bounce back. Jackson-man, another one I was wrong on. I still don't think it's sustainable long term, but until his knees give out, he's damned dangerous. Josh Allen-I know a lot of y'all think he's a bum; I see inconsistency due to some iffy fundamentals, i.e. footwork, etc. I think he's got as much raw ability as anyone. We'll see. Josh Rosen-two teams gave up on him. I think he's a bust. I think Andy could salvage him if he wants to come sit behind Patrick. Sam Darnold-This is my 'Josh Allen' in that I don't see a single ****ing thing about Darnold that says 'NFL QB'. I think he's a bum, and a big old bust. 2019- Kyler Murray-man, maybe? I don't know. The interviews pre-draft were so bad I really couldn't see him as a leader of men. Nice athlete. I think he'll tease for a couple of years, but I don't see a star in the NFL there. Gardner Minshew-You know, I have a soft spot for the scrappy guys that nobody wanted. He appears to be game-smart, pretty accurate, and the kind of guy people rally around. We'll see, but I think he's a serviceable NFL QB there and JAX hasn't really had that in...well...ever. What do you guys think? Am I missing anyone?
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