Are there any unknown "rules" against acquiring a second remote job?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Take it and outsource it to someone else

Pay them less and pocket the difference.

I've thought about doing that too

[Bearcat]

I feel like if you care enough about your other job that you don't want to lose it, the best route is to ask your employer about moonlighting.

You don't tell them and you get caught: You're ****ed.

You ask, they say no, and you get caught: You're ****ed.

You ask them and they say "you can moonlight when you aren't on the clock and as long as it doesn't impact your work here," and you get caught on the clock: You might be ****ed, but can at least play it off as a one time thing or hell, tell them you're quitting the other job because the other company ****ed up by calling you or whatever. And at worse... you're ****ed.

But, what if the question raises suspicion? ....well, if you care about your current job not to **** it up, wouldn't you already be trying to not raise suspicion if you hadn't told them? In other words, not sure I'd be MORE paranoid after asking than not asking at all. The outcome is the same: do what you need to do to keep your primary job.

[BigRedChief]

You are using a company laptop, all it takes is someone to look at your activity and they will know and see the pattern. You are probably not so stupid to use the company laptop but they can see every keystroke. You are off line, not moving the mouse for periods of the day…… they’ll know. Either you are working a 2nd job or ****ing off at work. Either way, it’s over.

[kccrow]

The rule is check your employer's handbook and non-compete policies and ensure you comply.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by kccrow

The rule is check your employer's handbook and non-compete policies and ensure you comply.

This. And it's probably going to say something to the effect that it's allowed as long as it doesn't interfere with your current employment. It might also state that you're compelled to disclose it to your employer. Personally I believe that's none other business.

[BigRichard]

I work remotely and have a second job that often times requires me to work during my full time job. Of course I own the second business and my boss is fully aware of it so I am not in too much trouble if I get caught .

[LoneWolf]

I love how people that work from home don't think there is anything wrong with working less than 40 hours and that it is OK to try to do a second job at the same time and get paid for 80 hours of work while working 40. I have a few design engineers that report directly to me that work from home. I get a weekly report from IT on how many hours they are actually working. It shows time actually spent on the computer actually working, meeting times where they are engaged in on-line meetings, and "idle" time. I don't expect the number of working hours to equal 40 each week because I know that is unrealistic, but anything lower than 35-36 hours and I will definitely take notice. If someone had a 20 hour week, they would be terminated unless they had a damn good explanation.

And before someone gets on here and says something about me typing this out during work hours, I have been up working since 4 a.m. and my last meeting of the day ends at 5:30 p.m. so I am definitely putting in my time.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I love how people that work from home don't think there is anything wrong with working less than 40 hours and that it is OK to try to do a second job at the same time and get paid for 80 hours of work while working 40. I have a few design engineers that report directly to me that work from home. I get a weekly report from IT on how many hours they are actually working. It shows time actually spent on the computer actually working, meeting times where they are engaged in on-line meetings, and "idle" time. I don't expect the number of working hours to equal 40 each week because I know that is unrealistic, but anything lower than 35-36 hours and I will definitely take notice. If someone had a 20 hour week, they would be terminated unless they had a damn good explanation.

And before someone gets on here and says something about me typing this out during work hours, I have been up working since 4 a.m. and my last meeting of the day ends at 5:30 p.m. so I am definitely putting in my time.

You sound like a dickhead. I bet everyone at your workplace hates you.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Womble

You sound like a dickhead. I bet everyone at your workplace hates you.

I'm a dickhead because I set my team's salaries based on 40 hours of work and I expect that type of effort? I reward my people well for doing good work and work with them on family issues that inevitably come up. I've had people follow me from different places to continue working with me.

If someone has the opportunity to work from home and takes that avenue, as a leader I have to have a way of monitoring their work. I can't go to their home and peek through their windows so monitoring their online presence is the best way. I'm sorry that you are such a dumb **** that you can't understand that. So please take this opportunity to suck my spotted dick you limey prick.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I'm a dickhead because I set my team's salaries based on 40 hours of work and I expect that type of effort? I reward my people well for doing good work and work with them on family issues that inevitably come up. I've had people follow me from different places to continue working with me.

If someone has the opportunity to work from home and takes that avenue, as a leader I have to have a way of monitoring their work. I can't go to their home and peek through their windows so monitoring their online presence is the best way. I'm sorry that you are such a dumb **** that you can't understand that. So please take this opportunity to suck my spotted dick you limey prick.

Don't give me that bullshit you pathetic corporate lackey who self identifies as a "leader". Your standard response on this forum to someone offending you is to unironically challenge them to a fight at arrowhead. Don't try and pull this crap about you being a wonderful, understanding boss. You're a grubby, snivelling bottomfeeder who has nothing better to do than spy on the unfortunate people who happen to work under you. You should only be concerned with how well they are doing their job and if their output is up to scratch. The fact that you seem to take pride in watching them like a voyeur hawk shows how shitty your and your workplaces attitude is.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Womble

Don't give me that bullshit you pathetic corporate lackey who self identifies as a "leader". Your standard response on this forum to someone offending you is to unironically challenge them to a fight at arrowhead. Don't try and pull this crap about you being a wonderful, understanding boss. You're a grubby, snivelling bottomfeeder who has nothing better to do than spy on the unfortunate people who happen to work under you. You should only be concerned with how well they are doing their job and if their output is up to scratch. The fact that you seem to take pride in watching them like a voyeur hawk shows how shitty your and your workplaces attitude is.

Show me anyone with the exception of Clay when I was very drunk one night about 8 years ago who I challenged to a fight. You have me confused with someone else.

A boss monitoring their employee's work is not wrong. Again, I'm not hounding people if they don't show a full 40 hours of work and the work they have been assigned is done at a satisfactory level. I'm looking for the people only working a few hours a day and then if the work they have been assigned is getting done to my expectations, I will assign them more work. This is mostly engineering project work and as one project winds down the workload always decreases. Most people aren't going to voluntarily speak up stating they need more work so this method is a good way to monitor that.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Womble

You sound like a dickhead. I bet everyone at your workplace hates you.

If he were getting pissy with people who are working 38 hours or whatever, I might agree with you. I don't have an issue with using that to identify people who are truly slacking off, though.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If he were getting pissy with people who are working 38 hours or whatever, I might agree with you. I don't have an issue with using that to identify people who are truly slacking off, though.

Yeah, I agree with you. If your employer is expecting a certain amount of work and you agreed to that by signing documents when you started employment, you have no case.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I love how people that work from home don't think there is anything wrong with working less than 40 hours and that it is OK to try to do a second job at the same time and get paid for 80 hours of work while working 40. I have a few design engineers that report directly to me that work from home. I get a weekly report from IT on how many hours they are actually working. It shows time actually spent on the computer actually working, meeting times where they are engaged in on-line meetings, and "idle" time. I don't expect the number of working hours to equal 40 each week because I know that is unrealistic, but anything lower than 35-36 hours and I will definitely take notice. If someone had a 20 hour week, they would be terminated unless they had a damn good explanation.

And before someone gets on here and says something about me typing this out during work hours, I have been up working since 4 a.m. and my last meeting of the day ends at 5:30 p.m. so I am definitely putting in my time.

Bro...just bro...A salary job is a salary job. It's not by the hour.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Bro...just bro...A salary job is a salary job. It's not by the hour.

I don't believe he said anything about salary. I guess I assumed we were talking hourly. I used to work a salary job before my current job (dang, I'm just now realizing that was 26 years ago). Yeah, it sucked. I always ended up working 70-80 hours even though the expectation was to work 45 hours. I looked back at that and wished I had not taken the management position. I was making more as an assistant if you figure in overtime pay. I guess that's why my opinion of salary is mostly about corporate greed than anything.