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pugsnotdrugs19 · 02:14 PM

Keep in mind the potential price tag of each free agents, obviously. Maybe give some insight to how you'd like to construct the contract.

If you don't want to sign one, note other positions you may want to pursue via FA.

Can select multiple, but keep it realistic.

Best22 · 02-25-2018, 04:13 PM

Way too early predicted AFC playoff picture

Just to take a wild guess at our playoff chances assuming we lose the division

1. Pats
2. Jags
3. Steelers
4. Chargers
5. Bills
6. Chiefs/Titans/Raiders/Ravens

**RealSNR** · 02-25-2018, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Way too early predicted AFC playoff picture

Just to take a wild guess at our playoff chances assuming we lose the division

1. Pats
2. Jags
3. Steelers
4. Chargers
5. Bills
6. Chiefs/Titans/Raiders/Ravens

Why should we assume we will lose the division? Or that the ****ing CHARGERS will win it? What did the Chargers demonstrate last year that makes them so formidable? Their head coach is a goddamn RBs coach, and he certainly demonstrated last year that he's about as adept of a head coach as Vance Joseph is.

Makes you kind of thankful that at least it's only our offensive coordinator who's the dumbass RBs coach.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-25-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Why should we assume we will lose the division? Or that the ****ing CHARGERS will win it? What did the Chargers demonstrate last year that makes them so formidable? Their head coach is a goddamn RBs coach, and he certainly demonstrated last year that he's about as adept of a head coach as Vance Joseph is.

Makes you kind of thankful that at least it's only our offensive coordinator who's the dumbass RBs coach.

The Chargers were in a transition year in 2017, moving from San Diego to lower Los Angeles county, which meant that nearly 53 players, the staff and their families had to move 90 miles north, while practicing to the east and playing in a 30,000 seat stadium.

They started 0-4 and finished at 9-7. Had they started 2-2, they would have won the division and bumped the Chiefs from the playoffs.

They have a very talented roster, especially defensively. They’re going to be the favorites this year to win the West.

BryanBusby · 02-25-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chargers were in a transition year in 2017, moving from San Diego to lower Los Angeles county, which meant that nearly 53 players and the staff moved 90 miles north, while practicing to the east and playing in a 30,000 seat stadium.

They started 0-4 and finished at 9-7. Had they started 2-2, they would have won the division and bumped the Chiefs from the playoffs.

They have a very talented roster, especially defensively. They’re going to be the favorites this year to win the West.

Coulda, shoulda.

They had a direct shot at winning the West and didn't. I wouldn't be quick to concede 2018.

Best22 · 02-25-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Why should we assume we will lose the division? Or that the ****ing CHARGERS will win it? What did the Chargers demonstrate last year that makes them so formidable? Their head coach is a goddamn RBs coach, and he certainly demonstrated last year that he's about as adept of a head coach as Vance Joseph is.

Makes you kind of thankful that at least it's only our offensive coordinator who's the dumbass RBs coach.

Because the whole purpose of my post was showing who KC would be competing against for a wildcard spot. This is important to analyze because the strength of the wildcard field varies year to year.

And of course if we assumed KC would win the division the wildcard analysis would be pointless

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-25-2018, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Coulda, shoulda.

They had a direct shot at winning the West and didn't. I wouldn't be quick to concede 2018.

Concede? No.

Expect? No.

This team has far too many holes and a serious lack of depth in order to expect a division title next year.

Hell, they don’t even have a 2nd or 3rd string QB, let alone, anyone that can stay healthy behind Kareem Hunt, a starting left guard and holes everywhere on defense.

BryanBusby · 02-25-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Concede? No.

Expect? No.

This team has far too many holes and a serious lack of depth in order to expect a division title next year.

Hell, they don’t even have a 2nd or 3rd string QB, let alone, anyone that can stay healthy behind Kareem Hunt, a starting left guard and holes everywhere on defense.

They had holes and depth problems and still won the West in 2017, even with a multi game losing streak.

Sure things went their way, but they have the best coach in the West and more capital to patch up holes. I think the Chiefs are still right in the mix, even with a first year starter.

**RealSNR** · 02-25-2018, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Because the whole purpose of my post was showing who KC would be competing against for a wildcard spot. This is important to analyze because the strength of the wildcard field varies year to year.

And of course if we assumed KC would win the division the wildcard analysis would be pointless

Don't forget about the Colts if Andrew Luck is healthy.

The Dolphins had shit luck at QB this year. Who knows what they could have done with a healthy Tannehill.

Houston goes as Deshaun Watson goes, but what if Deshaun Watson doesn't go and actually stays healthy?

****... Dorsey loves to spend money like a drunken sailor. He's got all that ****ing cash. He's got all those ****ing draft picks. You saw him play the training camp waivers game in 2013 when we had the #1 pick... he could easily do something just as drastic in Cleveland. There will be a ****ton of roster turnover on that team. He's going to get rid of a lot of useless trash players on that team. The Browns might contend.

You said your "analysis" was too soon. Yeah. It IS too soon. It's ****ing February. Everybody has a ****ing shot at the playoffs in February.

Sassy Squatch · 02-25-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't forget about the Colts if Andrew Luck is healthy.

The Dolphins had shit luck at QB this year. Who knows what they could have done with a healthy Tannehill.

Houston goes as Deshaun Watson goes, but what if Deshaun Watson doesn't go and actually stays healthy?

****... Dorsey loves to spend money like a drunken sailor. He's got all that ****ing cash. He's got all those ****ing draft picks. You saw him play the training camp waivers game in 2013 when we had the #1 pick... he could easily do something just as drastic in Cleveland. There will be a ****ton of roster turnover on that team. He's going to get rid of a lot of useless trash players on that team. The Browns might contend.

You said your "analysis" was too soon. Yeah. It IS too soon. It's ****ing February. Everybody has a ****ing shot at the playoffs in February.

Hahahahaha. Dorsey actually turning the Browns into a contender? The current state of the roster here is a testament to how badly he ****ing sucks. The fact that he kept Mr. 1-31 around is just the icing on how shit he is.

BryanBusby · 02-25-2018, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22

Way too early predicted AFC playoff picture

Just to take a wild guess at our playoff chances assuming we lose the division

1. Pats
2. Jags
3. Steelers
4. Chargers
5. Bills
6. Chiefs/Titans/Raiders/Ravens

Hot take, but I won't be shocked if the Jags miss the playoffs and I don't expect the Bills to make it back in. Titans could miss it also, as I don't see Vrabel being ready for that job.

bigjosh · 02-25-2018, 04:45 PM

Anyone but malcolm butler.

**RealSNR** · 02-25-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Hahahahaha. Dorsey actually turning the Browns into a contender? The current state of the roster here is a testament to how badly he ****ing sucks. The fact that he kept Mr. 1-31 around is just the icing on how shit he is.

I'm not buying the Browns at all. Just saying that every year there's a shakeup in the AFC. Some expected contender goes out, an unexpected team takes its place.

The Bills had a goddamn firesale last offseason all the way up until the trade deadline in the regular season. They TRIED to tank. And they ****ing made the playoffs.

It's dumb to talk about the challenges we'll face in February and then just cite all the playoff teams from last year plus all the teams that were close. It doesn't analyze anything. It just says, "Here's who made or almost made the playoffs last year."

Best22 · 02-25-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Don't forget about the Colts if Andrew Luck is healthy.

The Dolphins had shit luck at QB this year. Who knows what they could have done with a healthy Tannehill.

Houston goes as Deshaun Watson goes, but what if Deshaun Watson doesn't go and actually stays healthy?

****... Dorsey loves to spend money like a drunken sailor. He's got all that ****ing cash. He's got all those ****ing draft picks. You saw him play the training camp waivers game in 2013 when we had the #1 pick... he could easily do something just as drastic in Cleveland. There will be a ****ton of roster turnover on that team. He's going to get rid of a lot of useless trash players on that team. The Browns might contend.

You said your "analysis" was too soon. Yeah. It IS too soon. It's ****ing February. Everybody has a ****ing shot at the playoffs in February.

Tannehill ain't taking the Dolphins to the playoffs
And I think Indy is a few years away. KC ought to be better than the Colts

RunKC · 02-25-2018, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Concede? No.

Expect? No.

This team has far too many holes and a serious lack of depth in order to expect a division title next year.

Hell, they don’t even have a 2nd or 3rd string QB, let alone, anyone that can stay healthy behind Kareem Hunt, a starting left guard and holes everywhere on defense.

Andy Reid thoroughly outcoached Anthony Lynn twice last year. The disparity between Lynn/Joseph and Andy Reid is enormous.

We’ll have to see what happens in the next 2 months but right now I’m taking the Chiefs based on coaching...and especially if Mahomes is who everyone says he is.

saphojunkie · 02-25-2018, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I was referring to competing for a Super Bowl, not within the division.

Veach and Clark both said it would take 2-3 years under Veach’s plan to compete for a Super Bowl.

Given that, Veach will likely sign young players in free agency and draft as many Week 1 contributors as possible.

None of this “but he has a great ceiling!” that takes years, if ever, to realize, at least in the early rounds.

Self-fulfilling prophecy, it would seem.

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