Football Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT - Page 7

Sofa King · 02-10-2021, 01:40 PM

Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)

https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt

It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.

If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.

ChiefsCountry · 02-12-2021, 02:38 PM

Brown makes perfect sense for the Jags

staylor26 · 02-12-2021, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Brown makes perfect sense for the Jags

Yea they can just send them pick #25 and be done with it.

Lawrence and your LT locked in.

DT#58 · 02-12-2021, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nope.

They need to stay with their board. Picking OL just to pick OL is how you end up with an expensive line that doesn't improve.

Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

htismaqe · 02-12-2021, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58

Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

You NEVER go into the draft saying that at least 2 of your first 5 picks MUST be a certain position.

That's not how a good team approaches the draft, period.

Now, you've clarified to say that if there's a 1st-round graded OT there at 31 you take him. I agree with that.

I simply do not agree that they MUST do anything in the draft. There's also free agency and before they can do any of it, they have to figure out what the plan is for Fisher.

TEX · 02-12-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58

Yes, the top priority absolutely has to be to rebuild the Oline.
When you have a $500 million dollar investment, protecting that investment take precedent over any other areas of need.
The thinking that having an average or below Oline is sufficient because Mahomes can bail the offence out has to stop.
Of the first 5 rounds of the draft, at least 2 of those picks must be Olinemen

I'd use FA as part of the O-Line rebuild. That way you KNOW what you're getting. Use the draft for depth and BAP. Don't be pigeon holed into "having" to take players of need. It's how you get into trouble. Remember Scott Pioli's 1st pick...YIKES!

DT#58 · 02-12-2021, 05:06 PM

Ok saying the Chiefs must take 2 Olinemen in their first 5 picks is maybe simplyfing things.
But the fact is The Oline is the most glaring weakness on this team, and its not even close. Need for an edge rusher, and a #2 WR after that.
Sure there are variables yet to be determined such as the health of both Fisher and Schwartz and free agency.
But protecting your franchise QB with a top Oline, especially a left OT is paramount.
Thats the attitude Vietch and Reid must have in the draft.

TEX · 02-12-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DT#58

Ok saying the Chiefs must take 2 Olinemen in their first 5 picks is maybe simplyfing things.
But the fact is The Oline is the most glaring weakness on this team, and its not even close. Need for an edge rusher, and a #2 WR after that.
Sure there are variables yet to be determined such as the health of both Fisher and Schwartz and free agency.
But protecting your franchise QB with a top Oline, especially a left OT is paramount.
Thats the attitude Vietch and Reid must have in the draft.

I'd be fine IF Veach fixed the OL. In fact, if that's all he did, and it turned out to be a solid fix, I'd be happy. Because it would mean that Mahomes would have protection and he could be Mahomes. Our WR's would have more time to get open while Mahomes was being Mahomes. Our run game would be better (providing Reid committed to effectively run), while Mahomes was being Mahomes. It all points to if Mahomes is protected, he CAN make up fo deficiencies in other places. Even he can't do that with what KC played with in the Super Bowl.

But just imagine if, in addition to building a stellar OL, that Veach did other things too, like get an edge rusher opposite Clark...

**J Diddy** · 02-12-2021, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I'd be fine IF Veach fixed the OL. In fact, if that's all he did, and it turned out to be a solid fix, I'd be happy. Because it would mean that Mahomes would have protection and he could be Mahomes. Our WR's would have more time to get open while Mahomes was being Mahomes. Our run game would be better (providing Reid committed to effectively run), while Mahomes was being Mahomes. It all points to if Mahomes is protected, he CAN make up fo deficiencies in other places. Even he can't do that with what KC played with in the Super Bowl.

But just imagine if, in addition to building a stellar OL, that Veach did other things too, like get an edge rusher opposite Clark...

It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

TEX · 02-12-2021, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

It's even cuter that you think that you can read.

staylor26 · 02-12-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

It's cute that you think Clark is an edge rusher.

Umm how the **** is he not an edge rusher?

Wisconsin_Chief · 02-12-2021, 06:48 PM

It really truly sucks that all of a sudden we need to replace our two Pro Bowl caliber tackles at once. And it’s not like you can just cut them and move on. They’re both sitting on injuries and you possibly have to figure out what the hell to do to work around their salaries.

Such a “because Chiefs” thing to happen.

Sofa King · 03-11-2021, 09:36 AM

Seems like a good time to bump this.

**Baby Lee** · 03-11-2021, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

It really truly sucks that all of a sudden we need to replace our two Pro Bowl caliber tackles at once. And it’s not like you can just cut them and move on. They’re both sitting on injuries and you possibly have to figure out what the hell to do to work around their salaries.

Such a “because Chiefs” thing to happen.

Alternatively, . . . just listen for a minute!!

Sofa King · 03-11-2021, 10:01 AM

https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-rumors-updates/

NFL trade rumors: Ravens will only move Orlando Brown for a top-40 pick
Pro Bowl offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. requests trade from Baltimore Ravens

The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in a less-than-stellar situation with starting right tackle Orlando Brown Jr. He took over for an injured Ronnie Stanley at left tackle last season and continued to dominate the trenches. Brown has since requested a trade and wants to be a franchise blindside protector.

Whether that means the two-time Pro Bowler will be traded remains to be seen. Reports out of Baltimore are that the Ravens want a top-40 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. If they don’t get it, John Harbaugh and Co. are willing to let Brown play out the final season of his contract and receive a compensatory pick when Brown leaves for free agency.

Looking at it logically, the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers are two teams picking at the top of Round 2 who would make sense for Brown.

**Rain Man** · 03-11-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-rumors-updates/

NFL trade rumors: Ravens will only move Orlando Brown for a top-40 pick
Pro Bowl offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. requests trade from Baltimore Ravens

The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in a less-than-stellar situation with starting right tackle Orlando Brown Jr. He took over for an injured Ronnie Stanley at left tackle last season and continued to dominate the trenches. Brown has since requested a trade and wants to be a franchise blindside protector.

Whether that means the two-time Pro Bowler will be traded remains to be seen. Reports out of Baltimore are that the Ravens want a top-40 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. If they don’t get it, John Harbaugh and Co. are willing to let Brown play out the final season of his contract and receive a compensatory pick when Brown leaves for free agency.

Looking at it logically, the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers are two teams picking at the top of Round 2 who would make sense for Brown.

If the guy can play LT at a high level, that's easily worth a top 40 pick, especially where our pick is. Good LTs are not common.

02-10-2021, 01:40 PM
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1072096 VARSITY	Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT Moving on from Fisher? Probably not. Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made. Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft. Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.) https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last. Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport. Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal. Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season. Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles. Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking. After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway. If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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DT#58 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2018 Casino cash: $10010400	Ok saying the Chiefs must take 2 Olinemen in their first 5 picks is maybe simplyfing things. But the fact is The Oline is the most glaring weakness on this team, and its not even close. Need for an edge rusher, and a #2 WR after that. Sure there are variables yet to be determined such as the health of both Fisher and Schwartz and free agency. But protecting your franchise QB with a top Oline, especially a left OT is paramount. Thats the attitude Vietch and Reid must have in the draft.
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Wisconsin_Chief MVP Join Date: Aug 2019 Casino cash: $2010400	It really truly sucks that all of a sudden we need to replace our two Pro Bowl caliber tackles at once. And it’s not like you can just cut them and move on. They’re both sitting on injuries and you possibly have to figure out what the hell to do to work around their salaries. Such a “because Chiefs” thing to happen.
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03-11-2021, 09:36 AM	#102
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1072096 VARSITY	Seems like a good time to bump this.
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03-11-2021, 10:01 AM	#104
Sofa King Hello Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Dakota Casino cash: $1072096 VARSITY	https://sportsnaut.com/nfl-trade-rumors-updates/ NFL trade rumors: Ravens will only move Orlando Brown for a top-40 pick Pro Bowl offensive tackle Orlando Brown Jr. requests trade from Baltimore Ravens The Baltimore Ravens find themselves in a less-than-stellar situation with starting right tackle Orlando Brown Jr. He took over for an injured Ronnie Stanley at left tackle last season and continued to dominate the trenches. Brown has since requested a trade and wants to be a franchise blindside protector. Whether that means the two-time Pro Bowler will be traded remains to be seen. Reports out of Baltimore are that the Ravens want a top-40 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. If they don’t get it, John Harbaugh and Co. are willing to let Brown play out the final season of his contract and receive a compensatory pick when Brown leaves for free agency. Looking at it logically, the New York Jets and Carolina Panthers are two teams picking at the top of Round 2 who would make sense for Brown.
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