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Old 12-28-2018, 09:52 PM  
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*****Official Black Monday 2018 Thread****
Head Coach-Fired
Packers-Mike McCarthy Rumored interview-Pat Fitzgerald-NW, Josh McDoesnothing

Browns-Hue Jackson
Buccaneers-Dirk Koetter
Jets-Todd Bowles
Broncos-Vance Joseph
Bengals-Marvin Lewis-has to be done someday
Dolphins-Adam Gase
Cardinals-Steve Wilks-now fired. Adam Gase to interview

This is reading like school cancellations for a snow day.

On the Bubble
Cowboys-Jason Garrett-always on the bubble
Bill O'brian-Houston. After this disaster-why not!

General Manager-Fired

Coordinators, etc-Fired
Browns-Todd Haley-OC
Vikings-John DeFilippo-OC
Falcons-offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, defensive coordinator Marquand Manuel and special teams coach Keith Armstrong
Lions-Jim Bob Cooter OC-nice name
Browns-Gregg Williams-hatchet man
Yeah, yeah--not yet DC

Saved by the grace of God
Jags- HC Doug Marrone and GM Dave Caldwell
Panthers-Ron Rivera

Hired
Raiders-Mike Mayock-GM
Packers-Titans' OC Matt LaFleur new HC
Cardinals-Kliff Kingsbury-HC
Buccaneers-Bruce Arians-HC
Donkeys-Vic Fangio-HC
Browns-Freddie Kitchens-HC
Jets-Adam Gase HC

I will update when I can. Mods-feel free to edit.
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Old 12-31-2018, 01:57 PM   #151
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Kubiak worked with Keenum in Houston. Kubiak worked with Harbaugh in Baltimore.

I think this is their goal. Harbaugh HC, Kubiak OC. Not sure who their DC would be. Pagano was Harbaugh’s DC in Baltimore, so maybe that direction.
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Old 12-31-2018, 01:58 PM   #152
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Are you sure that you want to poach coaches from talent-laden defenses under the assumption that the coaches are the responsible parties for success instead of the players?

This is no different than taking a 49er backup QB or a Patriot coordinator/executive.
If the alternatives are hiring from within or Bowles, yea.
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Old 12-31-2018, 02:06 PM   #153
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Kubiak worked with Keenum in Houston. Kubiak worked with Harbaugh in Baltimore.

I think this is their goal. Harbaugh HC, Kubiak OC. Not sure who their DC would be. Pagano was Harbaugh’s DC in Baltimore, so maybe that direction.
You think Gary Kubiak, who won a SB with Denver as HC then retired due to medical reasons, would come back to the place where he won a SB as a coordinator?
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Old 12-31-2018, 02:09 PM   #154
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Are you sure that you want to poach coaches from talent-laden defenses under the assumption that the coaches are the responsible parties for success instead of the players?

This is no different than taking a 49er backup QB or a Patriot coordinator/executive.
Probably the same warning should come for other teams with Bieniemy. I mean, Mahomes/Hill/Kelce/Watkins aren't coming with him.

Not saying he wouldn't be a great HC, but he'll certainly benefit from that and being under Reid. We'd better get Kafka ready.
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Old 12-31-2018, 02:14 PM   #155
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Probably the same warning should come for other teams with Bieniemy. I mean, Mahomes/Hill/Kelce/Watkins aren't coming with him.

Not saying he wouldn't be a great HC, but he'll certainly benefit from that and being under Reid. We'd better get Kafka ready.
I completely agree. Losing Bienemy is not going to hurt at all. Nagy looks like a genius. How much did losing him hurt the Chiefs?

Ninety-nine percent of these guys are completely replaceable. The trick with coaching isn't to find a genius but to avoid a ****-up that makes players worse--see Gunther Cunningham and Derrick Thomas, or almost any defensive-minded, conservative coach and a young QB.
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Are you sure that you want to poach coaches from talent-laden defenses under the assumption that the coaches are the responsible parties for success instead of the players?

This is no different than taking a 49er backup QB or a Patriot coordinator/executive.
Chicago went from a bottom 5 defense in 2014 to a top 15 one after Fangio joined them. He's kept that unit above average for four consecutive years.

Martindale worked under Peas since 2012 in Baltimore and they have had a history of success there.

I think I'm okay with poaching from these coaching staffs rather than the bottom ranked Jets or Cardinals.
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Old 12-31-2018, 04:11 PM   #157
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Steve Wilks was a major idiot and absolutely deserved to be fired. He took a decent Defense and switched it to a 4-3 because???? and apparently forgot they had one really good weapon on Offense. No way would I **** with this dude, even as a DC.

The only mistake they made was keeping the stupid ass GM.
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Are you sure that you want to poach coaches from talent-laden defenses under the assumption that the coaches are the responsible parties for success instead of the players?

This is no different than taking a 49er backup QB or a Patriot coordinator/executive.
That's what I like about Ed Donatell. He was pretty good as a DC himself. Now that he knows fangios defense, I don't see why he couldn't be even better. What's great about fangios defense is in two places, not only did he make the five star dinner, he also shopped for the groceries.
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I don’t get why Adam Gase is already apparently getting HC interviews... he had a Todd Haley in KC-like fluke playoff season and then mediocrity in Miami and his team quit on him.

JFC let him go be an OC somewhere to prove himself again.
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Licht has been beyond awful. No way should Tampa involve him in the HC search. Cut ties with him now. Their drafts have been terrible.
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I don’t get why Adam Gase is already apparently getting HC interviews... he had a Todd Haley in KC-like fluke playoff season and then mediocrity in Miami and his team quit on him.

JFC let him go be an OC somewhere to prove himself again.
I wonder how many guys Peyton Manning got promoted Over his career?
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I don’t get why Adam Gase is already apparently getting HC interviews... he had a Todd Haley in KC-like fluke playoff season and then mediocrity in Miami and his team quit on him.

JFC let him go be an OC somewhere to prove himself again.
The NFL has always been somewhat this way. Many teams overvalue head coaching experience.
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JFC let him go be an OC somewhere to prove himself again.
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