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Old 05-24-2017, 02:23 PM  
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Game of Thrones Seasons 7-8
About to hit the 5000 post mark on the old thread, the first season 7 trailer today seems like the right time to start the final Game of Thones thread.

I'm going back to the original rules pre-2015. I don't think we need supervision or bannings. Just don't be a dick. Post anything you find online that hasn't aired yet inside of spoiler tags. That's pretty much it. I think we can all handle that...





For future us, 2015 thread is here: Link
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:31 AM   #4786
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  1. Completely wipe out the scene from the last episode where Euron takes down Rhaegal.
  2. In the assault on King's Landing, Jon and Dany take everyone out on dragonback, making the rout even more believable.
  3. While the bells ring to signal surrender, a scorpion they had missed takes Rhaegal out. Much more believable that they could hit a stationary target.
  4. Dany flips out.

When people are complaining about the writing, it's little things like that that could have gone a HUGE distance toward making it better.
But maybe that's why TV needs to be different from the books. The show spoonfed the bell and surrender situation to us like third graders. Then they wrapped up the surrender in a nice bow. That kind of simple spoonfeeding may be an eye roll for the books. But here's what made for good TV... Dany had a clear and obvious choice. It wasn't tactical. It wasn't impulsive emotional revenge. I agree with a lot of ways they should have made the scene more believable. But man, that pause where she decides to go berserk... Couldn't ask for better television.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:32 AM   #4787
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Yeah, Dany is dunzo.

The denouement is the only question left at this point. I'd be surprised if Dany survives the first 40 minutes of this last episode.

Someone referred to Jon's "Ned Honor" and yeah, that's gonna be the big plot driver for the final conflict there. As Jon's standing amidst the flames in Kings Landing with Aerys stockpiles of wildfyre hidden beneath the city going off all around him, I feel like the final piece was set into motion.

Jon's gonna kill her or go down trying. And with King's Landing in ruins, we KNOW he's not gonna stick around for that shitshow.

If Tyrion survives this shit somehow, I think he's the one that ends up tasked with the rebuilding. Will that mean bringing the 7 Kingdoms back together? I suspect not - that ship has sailed. But with his temperament and his affinity for southern Westeros, he's the last man standing with the chops/desire for the job.

And ultimately I think we see the whole continent simply splinter. Dany broke the wheel, just not as she intended.
I actually suspect Dany will 'capture' Jon and sentence him to die. The dragon will unleash fire upon him - but because he is a true Targaryn, he will not die(Fire can't kill them, remember Dany survived this). People will realize what that means and cause them to turn against her.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:33 AM   #4788
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I actually suspect Dany will 'capture' Jon and sentence him to die. The dragon will unleash fire upon him - but because he is a true Targaryn, he will not die(Fire can't kill them, remember Dany survived this). People will realize what that means and cause them to turn against her.
Shouldn't she know that would be completely ineffective, though?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:33 AM   #4789
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Sad thing is that if Arya wouldn't have given up so easily after Sandor said some things about her not dying, then she could've just waited in the map room for Cersei to come waltzing past her and did the job easy. I thought Cersei got off way too good with her death, she didn't deserve the poetic nature of it. Jaime did, but if Arya would've killed Cersei, Jaime comes around the corner and sees her do it, goes into a rage, Arya kills him, or leaves him because she sees him dying anyways and Jaime dies next to Cersei's body. That would've been a more fitting end. This entire season has kind of neutered Cersei, outside of decapitating Messandai and putting a bunch of people into a causeway of death, I expected more time with her.
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Shouldn't she know that would be completely ineffective, though?
I don't think she believes he's a true Targaryn. (no clue how to spell it)
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:36 AM   #4791
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On a random note, did Yara and the Ironborn just...disappear?

(That's a forgivable omission I suppose, but odd that they were just completely left out of this.)
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:37 AM   #4792
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I actually suspect Dany will 'capture' Jon and sentence him to die. The dragon will unleash fire upon him - but because he is a true Targaryn, he will not die(Fire can't kill them, remember Dany survived this). People will realize what that means and cause them to turn against her.
I was thinking the same thing but with Tyrion.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:38 AM   #4793
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Dany is going to know Tyrion released Jamie...and she already gave him an ultimatum. He betrayed her...will be interesting how that plays out.

Shit..Dany's power resides in her dragon...kill it and it's clear sailing.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:40 AM   #4794
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On a random note, did Yara and the Ironborn just...disappear?

(That's a forgivable omission I suppose, but odd that they were just completely left out of this.)
Thats why that beach fight scene was stupid...I guess they didn't have enough screen time to follow up on it.
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On a random note, did Yara and the Ironborn just...disappear?

(That's a forgivable omission I suppose, but odd that they were just completely left out of this.)
Hopefully they triumphantly show up next episode ready to **** shit up only to arrive at the ruins of Kings Landing. There's some serious comedic potential there.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:41 AM   #4796
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I was thinking the same thing but with Tyrion.
Shit - I can see that happening. Lots of rumors about him being a Targ.
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Too bad we're only going to spend one episode with Darth Khaleesi.
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On a random note, did Yara and the Ironborn just...disappear?

(That's a forgivable omission I suppose, but odd that they were just completely left out of this.)
Earlier in the season, EP1 or EP2, Theon said that Yara was at the Iron Isle setting up in case everyone and Winterfell had to retreat / evacuate.
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You're freakin' way off here. The Hound made the trip to King's Landing for one sole purpose, and that was to fight his brother. He was not there for Cersi. He could give a damn about Cersi. His story has nothing to do with Cersi. Cersi continued past The Mountain when it became apparent that he was no longer offering protection and a willingness to obey, but instead intended on fighting the Hound. Cersi had no control there. He was not there to defend her any longer.

That's a piss ass example.
Let's just say we'll have to disagree... It thought the scene was stupid and unbelievable.... Cersi isn't going to know what his agenda is in that moment, she wouldn't have commanded his protection if she knew ....fitting ending with a page out of a 1980's cheesy action-flick directorial playbook of crashing through a brick wall.

Did you like the pony scene...people love ponies...and they especially love riding off into the sunset cliches too. It's like a 14 year old girl wrote that final scene...maybe one did.

The action sequences were top-notch...the same director did episode 3. He's absolutely terrible in creating realistic, interpersonal situations...with any believable plot depth/development.
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Too bad we're only going to spend one episode with Darth Khaleesi.
If that...Half an episode most likely. They'll need to kill her relatively quickly so they can wrap up the victor's spoils.
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