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Old 01-12-2018, 08:25 AM   #1
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Anyone with experience taking plunge again ?

It looks like the consensus is Do not !
Hell, I wised up before the first time
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:34 AM   #2
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Anyone with experience taking plunge again ?

It looks like the consensus is Do not !
I've done hundreds of divorces, including some repeat customers coming to me for their 2nd divorce.

As I said earlier, unless you have some moral issues with cohabiting, there is absolutely no reason to choose marriage over that.

I could tell you some horror stories about people getting reamed in divorces... and the really bad part is many times they know they are getting screwed over, but they just don't care because they want out so badly that they are happy to give away a lot more than they have to in order to walk away.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:42 AM   #3
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I've done hundreds of divorces, including some repeat customers coming to me for their 2nd divorce.

As I said earlier, unless you have some moral issues with cohabiting, there is absolutely no reason to choose marriage over that.

I could tell you some horror stories about people getting reamed in divorces... and the really bad part is many times they know they are getting screwed over, but they just don't care because they want out so badly that they are happy to give away a lot more than they have to in order to walk away.
Isn't there something with if you co-habitate for awhile they can still take you for your shit since its like assumed marriage or something? You share the bills etc so they get something. I think that happened to my cousin.

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Old 01-12-2018, 09:45 AM   #4
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Isn't there something with if you co-habitate for awihle they can still take you for your shit since its like assumed marriage or something? You share teh bills etc so they get something. I think that happened to my cousin.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:55 AM   #5
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States that observe Common Law.
•Alabama.
•Colorado.
•District of Columbia.
•Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
•Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
•Iowa.
•Kansas.
•Montana.
Ah, that's it.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:43 PM   #6
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States that observe Common Law.
•Alabama.
•Colorado.
•District of Columbia.
•Georgia (if created before 1/1/97)
•Idaho (if created before 1/1/96)
•Iowa.
•Kansas.
•Montana.
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:50 AM   #7
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Isn't there something with if you co-habitate for awihle they can still take you for your shit since its like assumed marriage or something? You share teh bills etc so they get something. I think that happened to my cousin.
Don't know if it varies from state to state, but the magic number here is 7.

Have a friend (both of them actually) where they lived together for more than that time. Difference was, he had everything in his name. He paid all of the household bills, so when it was time for her to leave she had no equity in anything household wise. So she could claim nothing.
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Don't know if it varies from state to state, but the magic number here is 7.

Have a friend (both of them actually) where they lived together for more than that time. Difference was, he had everything in his name. He paid all of the household bills, so when it was time for her to leave she had no equity in anything household wise. So she could claim nothing.
Yea, I think that's what got my cousin, she had he name on the water bill or something.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:20 AM   #9
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Isn't there something with if you co-habitate for awhile they can still take you for your shit since its like assumed marriage or something? You share the bills etc so they get something. I think that happened to my cousin.
As others have noted, common law marriage can get you.

The question is how does the couple hold themselves out? Do they file taxes together (pretty much a slam-dunk if yes). Do they introduce each other as spouses, or as partners?

It becomes a fact-specific inquiry. Once the dust settles, the real issue is whether they have portrayed themselves as married, or just as partners. My next door neighbor is a lawyer, too, and I noticed when he introduced his live-in partner of many years that he was sure to say "this is my partner."
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Old 01-16-2018, 07:13 PM   #10
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I've done hundreds of divorces, including some repeat customers coming to me for their 2nd divorce.

As I said earlier, unless you have some moral issues with cohabiting, there is absolutely no reason to choose marriage over that.

I could tell you some horror stories about people getting reamed in divorces... and the really bad part is many times they know they are getting screwed over, but they just don't care because they want out so badly that they are happy to give away a lot more than they have to in order to walk away.
Thanks for the advice. If we live together will I have to seek a lawyer for the pre-nup?
We both don’t have much as far as $$ but I would say I have more ...
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Old 01-16-2018, 08:32 PM   #11
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Thanks for the advice. If we live together will I have to seek a lawyer for the pre-nup?
We both don’t have much as far as $$ but I would say I have more ...
Definitely get in writing that whatever you make ,buy or bring to the household is yours and yours only. Also make sure she has her OWN automobile that she pays for and buys her own gas. Make it clear that she's to buy her own food and if you go out to eat she pays at least her portion and leave a clause that she can pay for yours if she wishes. If you get a pet let her get the pet and clean up all the shit and replace the furniture it destroys. tell her you don't want a house with a yard so if she does then that's fine but she better bring a mower and know how to use it. Get it all in writing with a lawyer right up front.

An after thought also is I'd get it in the prenup that if she ends up pregnant with a kid a blood test will be mandatory to prove it's yours and if you seperate there will be no child support payments whatsoever. Make it clear you don't want to be a father right up front. Get it in writing with a lawyer right away.

That should just about do it.

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Old 01-16-2018, 08:56 PM   #12
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Ya like her atty is going for that, Really? You throw a bunch of garbage out for her to agree to and you will be sleeping with a fleshlight the rest of your days.


Just get a prenup off the web, amend it as you want and can agree on and return it. They will draft a legal document for your state and you can print it off and sign it, You may have to register it with the county but doubtful.

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Definitely get in writing that whatever you make ,buy or bring to the household is yours and yours only. Also make sure she has her OWN automobile that she pays for and buys her own gas. Make it clear that she's to buy her own food and if you go out to eat she pays at least her portion and leave a clause that she can pay for yours if she wishes. If you get a pet let her get the pet and clean up all the shit and replace the furniture it destroys. tell her you don't want a house with a yard so if she does then that's fine but she better bring a mower and know how to use it. Get it all in writing with a lawyer right up front.

An after thought also is I'd get it in the prenup that if she ends up pregnant with a kid a blood test will be mandatory to prove it's yours and if you seperate there will be no child support payments whatsoever. Make it clear you don't want to be a father right up front. Get it in writing with a lawyer right away.

That should just about do it.
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Old 01-17-2018, 05:45 AM   #13
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Thanks for the advice. If we live together will I have to seek a lawyer for the pre-nup?
We both don’t have much as far as $$ but I would say I have more ...
I would strongly suggest a prenup. They don't cost that much. Most lawyers will do one for a couple hundred bucks.

You could ask your (soon to be?) spouse to split the cost with you. Just point out that it protects both of you in the event that the unknown happens.

I do suggest going to a lawyer as opposed to downloading a form from a website. Reason being, if there is a mistake somewhere, it's much easier to seek compensation from the lawyer who practices in your state than it would be to get it from some website based in California or wherever.
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You could ask your (soon to be?) spouse to split the cost with you. Just point out that it protects both of you in the event that the unknown happens.
I've heard of this backfiring. A lawyer works for their client, even if someone else pays half the tab. She could end up paying half to end up with a deal that still favors him (or vice versa if they use her attorney)
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I would strongly suggest a prenup. They don't cost that much. Most lawyers will do one for a couple hundred bucks. I called mine $850+

You could ask your (soon to be?) spouse to split the cost with you. Just point out that it protects both of you in the event that the unknown happens.

I do suggest going to a lawyer as opposed to downloading a form from a website. Reason being, if there is a mistake somewhere, it's much easier to seek compensation from the lawyer who practices in your state than it would be to get it from some website based in California or wherever.
Look, I didn't nor would I suggest a form but now you request a draft, you amend and add what you want until it's what you want and they furnish you with all you need to make it legal and binding. I have been doing real estate contracts this way forever.

You do know that a lawyers jury of his peers are lawyers. Right?
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