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Old 08-27-2018, 12:12 PM  
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OBJ getting a 5 year mega deal
Per Adam Schefter.

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Old 08-27-2018, 02:20 PM   #31
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The quarterback makes the receiver, not the other way around. Look what Pat did for Albert Wilson, got him a fat contract from one game. Franchise tag Hill for a year or 2 and give Pat the big contract. He will make average receivers into stars.
So Eli has made ODB??
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Old 08-27-2018, 02:43 PM   #32
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And this is why all the experts shouldn't have all went crazy about the 48 million Watkins got from the Chiefs. Cooks and now OBJ got significantly more. From day one I've liked the Watkins deal. Is there risk in it? Sure, but dame it opens up the field for three of our home grown play makers and gives our young franchise QB another dynamic target.
OBJ has produced significantly more. The Cooks deal was as stupid as the Watkins deal.
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:09 PM   #33
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Last I read he was wanting 80 mil guaranteed. Damn though, that's crazy.
ive heard he wants 80 PERCENT guaranteed which would actually be around 92 guaranteed in my scenario.

he also wanted 25 per so i believe both sides have conceded some.


5 year 115 million 85 guaranteed is what im guessing.

and i broke my ****ing phone, shoot me a text so i can get your number again please lol
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:14 PM   #34
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I think the way hill is built ,his body type, we're going to get a lot of productive years out of him. Maybe he'll be nice enough to take one for the team at about 16 mil
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Old 08-27-2018, 03:23 PM   #35
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Guys, this is FAX and this is off topic ... and, I mean, very ... (I selected this thread because it seems pretty active). Here's the deal ...

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Old 08-27-2018, 03:25 PM   #36
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Guys, this is FAX and this is off topic ... and, I mean, very ... (I selected this thread because it seems pretty active). Here's the deal ...

Apparently, I need a convo with one of the Planet's fabulously talented mods. I've been looking all over the site in an effort to find a thread thing that leads to modland but have been unsuccessful in the attempt.

My problem has to do with the site failing to recognize that I've "whitelisted" my ad blocker of choice. This causes a notification that pops up near the upper banner (on reload/refresh) which forces the page to jump around. Although oddly fascinating, the effect results in brain confusion since I can't tell if I'm having a seizure or simply experiencing the initial stages of a psycho-chemical flashback.

How, pray tell, can one contact a fabulously talented mod person who can explain how I might address this issue? Thanks in advance for your support in this matter.

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Old 08-27-2018, 03:40 PM   #37
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Old 08-27-2018, 04:10 PM   #38
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Perfect. Thanks, Mr. The Pest. I'm sure Mr. SAUTO will be getting back to me any moment on.

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i sent you a pm back and reported the message so they could all see it.


mine does the same thing and i have no idea why,,,
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Old 08-27-2018, 07:19 PM   #39
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donald is probably going to be next.

115 million 85 guaranteed i'm betting on that one
Miller got 115 when the cap was 155.

The cap is now 177...up 14% from when Von Signed.

Aaron Donald’s deal will get close to 130m with over 90 guaranteed.

That’s how these agents work.
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:30 PM   #41
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I’d stand by my statement. Hill is ridiculous. Nobody acknowledges that more than I do. My position is well documented that not only is he operating on another plane of existence with speed but his hands and football IQ is so damn good it’s tremendous.

But I still don’t think you can pay a WR that kind of money. They just don’t impact enough plays and they’re too easy to neutralize. Hill may legitimately not be. But that begs the other question. When does his speed stop being transcendent? It’s almost assuredly going to be in the next 7 years (2 left on this contract and 5 extension - off the top of my head). Then we are left overpaying poor production.

I think you give stupid money to QBs. I don’t think you can give QB money to a WR.

And win anyway.
What we can afford or should be willing to give Hill will depend in part on our cap situation, depth, ect.

Potentially having a lot of tough choices in the future is a good thing though. Related to the WR discussion though, it is interesting to note that most SB winners as of late have not had monster WR's. Good ones for sure, but not really a lot of elite WR's winning the SB. I don't know that I think there is any correlation, unless cap hit is a factor.
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What we can afford or should be willing to give Hill will depend in part on our cap situation, depth, ect.

Potentially having a lot of tough choices in the future is a good thing though. Related to the WR discussion though, it is interesting to note that most SB winners as of late have not had monster WR's. Good ones for sure, but not really a lot of elite WR's winning the SB. I don't know that I think there is any correlation, unless cap hit is a factor.
I’ve said it before, and I guess I’ll keep saying it. You need value. Good teams maximize production per unit salary. And I don’t see it with giant ass receiver.l contracts.

I’m pretty OK with a Watkins sized contract for Hill. Even stretched out to 5 (with probably less guranteed money in the last 2 years) but **** man. That’s about it.
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I’ve said it before, and I guess I’ll keep saying it. You need value. Good teams maximize production per unit salary. And I don’t see it with giant ass receiver.l contracts.

I’m pretty OK with a Watkins sized contract for Hill. Even stretched out to 5 (with probably less guranteed money in the last 2 years) but **** man. That’s about it.
With guys like Jones, Fuller, Mahomes, Kelce ect I feel like it would be really hard for us to give Hill a massive contract, even if we thought it was the right call. For us to keep all of those guys we may need either an early extension with a few or a fair-value contract or 2 where the player helps the franchise out for the greater good.
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With guys like Jones, Fuller, Mahomes, Kelce ect I feel like it would be really hard for us to give Hill a major contract, even if we thought it was the right call.
Kelce may concuss himself out of a mega deal. And some of those other guys might play themselves out of a mega deal but I agree.

I’d probably rather give it to Hill than Kelce, but as long as those other guys aren’t wanting highest paid contracts in the league type stuff I agree.

If they all want to be market setters I think you let all but Mahomes walk. Unless he sucks.

Hill and Mahomes are probably the only guy there that has the potential to be the best at their positions. But I still wouldn’t give Hill a market setting deal.
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Old 08-28-2018, 06:17 AM   #45
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Wow! He's an awesome talent, but pretty disruptive. I thought they might trade him to the Rams for next to nothing...
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