Fire Bob Sutton

[petegz28]

That is all.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Bowles defense throughout his stay with the Jets:

Points per game:
2015 - 9th
2016 - 28th
2017 - 23rd
2018 - 28th

Total yards:
2015 - 4th
2016 - 11th
2017 - 25th
2018 - 26th

This is the guy that's going to come in here and fix our defense. Seriously lol?

Bowles run as a D-Coord with Az. is far more telling, and my limited research is pulling up positive information thus far. One thing that struck me in an old Cards article is Bowles explaining that his approach is not a "one size fits all" in terms of developing his players and making sure they understand what they need to do. He prefers to find out what method makes a guy understand and retain, and tailor the method accordingly.

Being a HC and running a defense simultaneously shouldn't be a measuring stick here. I mean ****, that's what Reid has been doing on his side of the ball, and I daresay that his time spent nose-deep in the play book isn't exactly making him a field general you can trust on Sundays. There's a reason the football system from grade school to the pros is made up of several people doing specialized jobs.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

I say we go after Gregg Williams. He's the one guy who can definitely whip our defence into shape, and fast. The Browns aren't commited to him yet. We need to steal this man.

[RunKC]

Best defense in football simplifies everything. What do ya know...

It’s what Martindale, his defensive staff, head coach John Harbaugh and Weddle set out to accomplish this offseason: Make the defense so simple and easy to communicate that they could call it on the fly, and, with numerous disguises, make it look complicated as hell.

“The biggest thing is we stripped everything down from before,” says Martindale, who took over the job in 2018 after six seasons as Baltimore’s linebackers coach.

All six seasons were spent under defensive coordinator Dean Pees, and the verbiage was extensive. It wasn’t as flexible as it needed to be once NFL teams like the Rams, Chiefs and Eagles began employing pre-snap motion on a plurality of plays and used one-word play-calls to increase tempo. It had to be streamlined, and someone smart had to run it on the field.

“We took all the different terms and simplified it,” Martindale says. “Before it was like being in Spanish class, but for some reason there's a chapter on Chinese and another chapter on French. All we did was put it all in English. We really rely on those veterans. It’s an elegant simplicity to us. We have pressure off of motion. Field and boundary.

https://amp.si.com/nfl/2019/01/03/ba...mpression=true

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Bowles run as a D-Coord with Az. is far more telling, and my limited research is pulling up positive information thus far. One thing that struck me in an old Cards article is Bowles explaining that his approach is not a "one size fits all" in terms of developing his players and making sure they understand what they need to do. He prefers to find out what method makes a guy understand and retain, and tailor the method accordingly.

Being a HC and running a defense simultaneously shouldn't be a measuring stick here. I mean ****, that's what Reid has been doing on his side of the ball, and I daresay that his time spent nose-deep in the play book isn't exactly making him a field general you can trust on Sundays. There's a reason the football system from grade school to the pros is made up of several people doing specialized jobs.

Thats possible. Theres another part of me that worries that he built a hell of a defense in Arizona using another ray Hortons groceries. Can bowles build that kind of a dominant defense on his own? Maybe head coaching got him away from it. Or maybe not.

[Sassy Squatch]

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...223527070.html

“I got here late after the four preseason games,” Ward said. “I just had to catch-up with the playbook. I’ve been learning the playbook all season. The playbook is kind of difficult. That’s really why I haven’t been playing. But I know it now, so I’m out there. I’ve just got to get better, help this team win.”

[TambaBerry]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...223527070.html

“I got here late after the four preseason games,” Ward said. “I just had to catch-up with the playbook. I’ve been learning the playbook all season. The playbook is kind of difficult. That’s really why I haven’t been playing. But I know it now, so I’m out there. I’ve just got to get better, help this team win.”

God that makes me so mad, why the **** is a defensive playbook that hard to learn

[OKchiefs]

I specifically remember saying earlier this season the defense needed to be simplified, and one or two of the resident know it all dumb ****s around here compared simplifying the defense to running vanilla preseason defense. Apparently it's not the same thing, who woulda thought.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You still don't know shit kcchiefsus

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God

I say we go after Gregg Williams. He's the one guy who can definitely whip our defence into shape, and fast. The Browns aren't commited to him yet. We need to steal this man.

I’m with ya

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God

I say we go after Gregg Williams. He's the one guy who can definitely whip our defence into shape, and fast. The Browns aren't commited to him yet. We need to steal this man.

Our defense definitely need more motivation.

What if he offered to pay them money if they put more hits on the QB?

[mcaj22]

when Sutton was the coordinator with that stacked 2008 Jets defense with Revis,David Harris, Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace they were like 18th best defense in the league. Rex Ryan took over in 2009 and shot them to first.

Sutton has always underperformed with the defensive talent he has had. Theres a very good chance a new coordinator could get this defense somewhere from 31st or whatever they are to 16-19th next year and that would be a huge improvement.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

God that makes me so mad, why the **** is a defensive playbook that hard to learn

If a defense takes more than an off season to implement, it is way too complicated.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

when Sutton was the coordinator with that stacked 2008 Jets defense with Revis,David Harris, Kris Jenkins, Calvin Pace they were like 18th best defense in the league. Rex Ryan took over in 2009 and shot them to first.

Sutton has always underperformed with the defensive talent he has had. Theres a very good chance a new coordinator could get this defense somewhere from 31st or whatever they are to 16-19th next year and that would be a huge improvement.

Sutton coached the same defense in 2013 that Romeo Crennel fielded in 2012 - it went from 25th to 5th. Irrelevant stats are irrelevant.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

God that makes me so mad, why the **** is a defensive playbook that hard to learn

no shit

Kind of explains why our S and LB are always out of position, sometimes on every damn play. It's why we leave players wide the **** open on game deciding 2pt conversions. Even Berry, who hasn't played in 2 yrs, is screaming at players to line up correctly.

When you're confused, you can't just play, because you're too busy thinking and you're afraid of ****ing up.

When you have that mentality, you've already lost....players can tell when all confidence is lost in a player. Good offenses will march all over you.

Players said the same thing about Greg Robinson during his time here and waddya know...they're getting similar results, only difference is this team gets to the QB well on long yardage situations. It's 1st and 2nd down where the big problems lie.

These guys aren't math wizards. Football is simple, defense doesn't need to be complex.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

God that makes me so mad, why the **** is a defensive playbook that hard to learn

Is it hard to learn or closer to impossible to execute? Dropping a DE into coverage on a overly regular basis is a pretty much a stupid "play" because DEs a powerful QB-rushers, not corners or safeties..