Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs -- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston?
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 13 of 15 « First 39101112 13 1415
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-13-2019, 11:51 PM  
Simply Red Simply Red is offline
You Sweetie!
 
Simply Red's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $2021206219
VARSITY
-- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston?
I know it's not popular, but; I'm SO cool w/ him not being here next season. Let me start w/ I LOVE Justin, but it's time for an entire agitation (as far as I'm concerned) -- You guys know how much I loved him, from UGA and what not. Fell to us in the draft after a Marijuana case, and he learned from it!

Don't get it twisted - my opinion is ALL BUSINESS. We will NEVER replace JH next year regarding talent - but if we can SORT of 'come close' w/ regards to a replacement, then I'll be cool. I think if those were the cases; we can add another stud w/ just a slight sub par replacement (at that position) and also: (the ability to add another quality positional starter)

I'd like to hear from my people, here.

If this were to happen - we all know JH will be just fine in finding work w/o reducing to sacking groceries at the Winn Dixie.

Thanks all!
Posts: 71,691
Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.Simply Red is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 05:51 PM   #181
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
He gone
Yeah, or you can also look at it like this-

Keeping Houston at $21 and trading Ford's $16 m leaves you at -$5 net.
Cutting Houston leaves $8 in dead money, and keeping Ford will cost you $16 m. = -$24 million net.

Right?
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 05:55 PM   #182
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
holy shit, is that right?

It's literally cheaper to keep Houston than Ford. I hadn't looked at it from that angle.

$21 million to keep Houston
$24 million give or take to cut him and keep Ford.
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:00 PM   #183
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
holy shit, is that right?

It's literally cheaper to keep Houston than Ford. I hadn't looked at it from that angle.

$21 million to keep Houston
$24 million give or take to cut him and keep Ford.
Hope springs eternal?
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:03 PM   #184
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
well, I mean unless i'm missing something.


Wow. Yeah. When you look at it like that, I'm tagging and trading Ford ASAP. Best pass rusher on the market, you're gonna get a nice pick out of that.

Play Houston one more year, draft his replacement with the Ford pick and get on with your life.
Last edited by Chris Meck; 02-21-2019 at 06:09 PM..
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:16 PM   #185
TwistedChief TwistedChief is online now
Why so serious?
 
TwistedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $2410415
Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy 6 View Post
I would MUCH rather keep him over Ford, that's for damn sure

We need complete, tough football players, not oft injured one trick ponies... Houston may be aging, but he is the more well rounded player by a country mile
I’m in the minority that badly wants to keep them both. Houston was a beast in all aspects of the game when he was healthy last year. Ford was one of the top 5 pass rushers in the league but without Houston they’ll double him and he’ll likely fade into being a good but not great OLB.
Posts: 12,285
TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:19 PM   #186
R Clark R Clark is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Casino cash: $4824900
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
If you want to trade someone, it has to be Ford. Nobody is going to trade for Houston at his salary.

Houston doesn't want to take a pay cut so they're going to be forced to cut him.
So when did this come out? Guess I missed him saying he wouldn’t restructure.
Posts: 2,603
R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:20 PM   #187
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedChief View Post
I’m in the minority that badly wants to keep them both. Houston was a beast in all aspects of the game when he was healthy last year. Ford was one of the top 5 pass rushers in the league but without Houston they’ll double him and he’ll likely fade into being a good but not great OLB.
You literally can't.
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:20 PM   #188
R Clark R Clark is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Casino cash: $4824900
Didn’t read whole thread my bad lol
Posts: 2,603
R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.R Clark wants to die in a aids tree fire.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:28 PM   #189
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
I think we've been looking at this all wrong.
Of course the tag for Ford was coming; right move no matter what.

I don't think they keep Ford. He's literally more expensive. I think the plan IS and has always been to trade him on the tag and keep Houston.

It's literally cheaper and he's the better all-around player.
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:29 PM   #190
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
well, I mean unless i'm missing something.


Wow. Yeah. When you look at it like that, I'm tagging and trading Ford ASAP. Best pass rusher on the market, you're gonna get a nice pick out of that.

Play Houston one more year, draft his replacement with the Ford pick and get on with your life.
Not only that, but Ford's stock isn't going any higher. You know it, I know it. What do we do when the stock is high on a player that could easily break with a cool breeze in the trees?
__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 06:31 PM   #191
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $1904910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate View Post
Not only that, but Ford's stock isn't going any higher. You know it, I know it. What do we do when the stock is high on a player that could easily break with a cool breeze in the trees?
I actually feel stupid for not realizing this sooner.

It's literally cheaper to keep the better all around player; and you'll pick up a high pick too.

I mean it's kind of a no-brainer.

You draft a DE with the Ford pick and then next year you can cut Houston with only $1.5 m dead cap.

There's no ****ing way that's not the plan.

Either way it goes you're going to get at least a #2 for Ford. You'll have 4 picks in the first two rounds. Even if you stand pat, you can get a CB, a S, and a DE in that first 64 picks.
Posts: 17,534
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 07:14 PM   #192
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Unsparing
 
Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
I actually feel stupid for not realizing this sooner.

It's literally cheaper to keep the better all around player; and you'll pick up a high pick too.

I mean it's kind of a no-brainer.

You draft a DE with the Ford pick and then next year you can cut Houston with only $1.5 m dead cap.

There's no ****ing way that's not the plan.

Either way it goes you're going to get at least a #2 for Ford. You'll have 4 picks in the first two rounds. Even if you stand pat, you can get a CB, a S, and a DE in that first 64 picks.

__________________
1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously.
100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ****ing rings as a Head Coach.
CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!
Posts: 77,135
Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.Sweet Daddy Hate is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 10:35 PM   #193
BossChief BossChief is online now
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $1844088
A team trading for Houston would be getting him with no guaranteed money and 2years for about 31m.

A team trading for Ford would be getting him on a 1 year deal for about 16.

When you trade for a player, you only owe the base salary, the trading team is on the hook for the prorated portion of what’s already been paid in a bonus.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,130
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 10:43 PM   #194
Iconic Iconic is offline
It's just a ride.
 
Iconic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Casino cash: $4110360
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC View Post
He gone
Damn. I was hoping they planned to tag and trade Ford but guess not. If this is the route they are taking they need to find a way to release Berry regardless of the cap hit. Just start fresh.
__________________

12·12·11 回 RIP Turd Haley
Posts: 7,608
Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Iconic is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
     Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2019, 10:49 PM   #195
CoMoChief CoMoChief is offline
Mahomes Dynasty
 
CoMoChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
Casino cash: $8052254
Pay 'em both.

Hell the Broncos manipulated and paid players under the table for years.

Why doesn't Clark just say "Hey take a paycut to help our books, and I'll make up the difference under the table off record"

Problem solved. If you aint cheatin, you aint tryin.
__________________
Posts: 39,156
CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.CoMoChief is too fat/Omaha.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 13 of 15 « First 39101112 13 1415

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:23 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.