Chiefs Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says - Page 24

JakeF · 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM

Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says
Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith.
Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0

The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him.

"A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes."

Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity.

"He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it."

There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft.

The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again.

"If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is."

Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that.

"I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position."

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Bewbies · 01-09-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

If you're giving up a 2nd round pick (or more) for a player you're going to want him on your team for multiple years. Whoever trades for Alex will most likely want him to sign an extension. I could see Alex balking at a multi-year deal with Buffalo. Nobody wants to play in Buffalo.

Buffalo could offer a 4th plus a conditional 2nd or 3rd rounder in 2019 if Alex is on the team in 2019.

Alex Smith will never be in a better position to negotiate a multi year extension. To take a 1 year flyer on himself would be nuts.

If he can get $15-$20M per in Buffalo, he'll sign the contract. No guarantee that offer comes around as a free agent.

Dude just had the best season of his life. This is the year his agent will be pushing to get him an extension. To wait would be insane. Especially at his age.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2018, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

Alex Smith will never be in a better position to negotiate a multi year extension. To take a 1 year flyer on himself would be nuts.

This.

Get traded to a team that wants you and wants to extend your contract.

You can't compete on the open market with Cousins or (the name of the Vikings QB is escaping me at the moment.)

Pitt Gorilla · 01-09-2018, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

A trade will be viable because of this exact thing. If you trade for Smith, you control the cost for Year 1 and have some negotiating power for an extension. If you wait for him to get cut and get to FA, then you have to compete in the market and are susceptible to a few other teams driving up your price.

Now... how much the return is certainly is to be determined. But it definitely makes sense to trade for Smith rather than take chances in FA.

he improves several teams significantly. The market will exist and I think the chiefs get a second or better.

Sassy Squatch · 01-09-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

This.

Get traded to a team that wants you and wants to extend your contract.

You can't compete on the open market with Cousins or (the name of the Vikings QB is escaping me at the moment.)

What? He just had a season where he finished at least in the top quarter of most arbitrary QB rankings, and had the #1 passer rating. He was garnering legit MVP discussion through the first quarter+ of the year. He's going to get a reeruned contract if he's on the open market.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2018, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

What? He just had a season where he finished at least in the top quarter of most arbitrary QB rankings, and had the #1 passer rating. He was garnering legit MVP discussion through the first quarter+ of the year.

No one cares.

Legitimately, no one cares.

If we get a 5th I'll be shocked and give you rheps for as long as you remind me to.

Sassy Squatch · 01-09-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No one cares.

Legitimately, no one cares.

If we get a 5th I'll be shocked and give you rheps for as long as you remind me to.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Remind me though, my memory is shit.

So, say, we get a 4th you should point out "Hey Rausch, um, today is a day and you owe me. And tomorrow, you'll owe me again."

The reminding part is what's a pain in the ass. I'm mostly an agreeable person...

Bewbies · 01-09-2018, 01:15 PM

He'll get traded once the QB evaluation is complete. If teams picking later in the 1st know those guys won't be there, or the teams picking high know none of them are worth the pick, that's when they move to Smith.

Same way we did when we traded for him. Once Dorsey knew there wasn't a QB worth the #1 they went out and executed plan B.

**Rausch** · 01-09-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

He'll get traded once the QB evaluation is complete.

prhom · 01-09-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We differ, but fair enough.

We will not get a 3rd because every team in the league knows we have to get rid of him.

He could be the league MVP this year and it won't matter because teams know we don't want him...

I agree that teams know we don’t want him and that weakens our position a little, but they also know that if we release him then the cost to sign him goes up dramatically. They get him for one year at $20M at least. By making a trade a team can gain priority over another team if they have a higher draft pick rather than having to offer Alex a larger contract to convince him to come play for them over another team. For a team like Cleveland who no free agent would be excited about going to, that is a real advantage. You are making a business deal with a team that controls his rights, rather than trying to win a popularity contest (refer to Manning, P v. NFL) where the teams who can offer the most trade value don’t get a seat at the table.

I get why you say what you say, but in a league where you may only get a few years to turn things around as a GM you don’t have the luxury of waiting for the guy you want to get released when you have the ammo to go get him before he hits the open market.

Sassy Squatch · 01-09-2018, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Remind me though, my memory is shit.

So, say, we get a 4th you should point out "Hey Rausch, um, today is a day and you owe me. And tomorrow, you'll owe me again."

The reminding part is what's a pain in the ass. I'm mostly an agreeable person...

Dont worry about it, bud. At the end of the day, we're all just jaded Chiefs fans coming off another dick kick from this franchise. Just hopeful that Smith will prove useful one more time.

thegame214 · 01-09-2018, 01:22 PM

What team will Alex Smith play for next season?

Chiefs +160
Cardinals +450
Jaguars +500
Bills +500
Broncos +700
Jets +700
Giants +1000
Browns +1000
Redskins +1200

Odds via @BovadaLV

**Rausch** · 01-09-2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by prhom

I agree that teams know we don’t want him and that weakens our position a little, but they also know that if we release him then the cost to sign him goes up dramatically.

So someone will give up no more than a 5th and we'll take it to be rid of his contract and move on.

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Originally Posted by prhom

I get why you say what you say...

I'll take that as a win and leave it there...

**Ming the Merciless** · 01-09-2018, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214

What team will Alex Smith play for next season?

Chiefs +160
Cardinals +450
Jaguars +500
Bills +500
Broncos +700
Jets +700
Giants +1000
Browns +1000
Redskins +1200

Odds via @BovadaLV

what is the direct link to this bet, i dont see it

100$ to win 1000$ on the browns seems like a decent bet...maybe throw down $300

**RealSNR** · 01-09-2018, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214

What team will Alex Smith play for next season?

Chiefs +160
Cardinals +450
Jaguars +500
Bills +500
Broncos +700
Jets +700
Giants +1000
Browns +1000
Redskins +1200

Odds via @BovadaLV

I'm not a gambler, but putting down even $10 on the Browns is totally worth it.

01-08-2018, 04:53 PM
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith. Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0 The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network. Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him. "A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes." Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity. "He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it." There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft. The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again. "If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is." Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that. "I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position." Author Kirk Larrabee @nfl_chiefs247
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