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Old 02-20-2019, 10:01 AM   #1
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Not saying it isn't a good movie but critics can suck a dick. They wouldn't know a good movie if it bit them on the ass.
I mean, they're not perfect, but there's a pretty strong correlation between critic ratings and audience ratings, especially in the action/adventure genre.



It's really amusing to me how much some of you guys want this thing to be bad. I'm not a huge fan of Larson's off-screen antics either, but I hardly care when it comes to a good flick.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:05 AM   #2
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I mean, they're not perfect, but there's a pretty strong correlation between critic ratings and audience ratings, especially in the action/adventure genre.



It's really amusing to me how much some of you guys want this thing to be bad. I'm not a huge fan of Larson's off-screen antics either, but I hardly care when it comes to a good flick.
I mean outside of "The Last Jedi" I've agreed with Critics far more than disagreed with them. Maybe Venom I could also point to where I enjoyed it but critics panned it. Disney might not have their fingers on the pulse of Star Wars but with Marvel movies, it's about as lock as you can get.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:49 PM   #3
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I mean, they're not perfect, but there's a pretty strong correlation between critic ratings and audience ratings, especially in the action/adventure genre.
In recent years, Wakanda love aside, many movies that have been pushed upon the public and promoted by activists and biased critics have shit the bed. And that should be considered a good thing by everyone.


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It's really amusing to me how much some of you guys want this thing to be bad. I'm not a huge fan of Larson's off-screen antics either, but I hardly care when it comes to a good flick.
It's really amusing to me how much you tried to denigrate something as innocuous as opening weekend projections in an attempt to defend the movie.

This stuff goes in both directions.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:12 PM   #4
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In recent years, Wakanda love aside, many movies that have been pushed upon the public and promoted by activists and biased critics have shit the bed. And that should be considered a good thing by everyone.




It's really amusing to me how much you tried to denigrate something as innocuous as opening weekend projections in an attempt to defend the movie.

This stuff goes in both directions.
Since it's apparently newsworthy, the projections have been raised up to $120m now.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/02...jections-rise/

And for the record, I still don't understand why anyone cares.
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Old 02-20-2019, 05:31 PM   #5
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In recent years, Wakanda love aside, many movies that have been pushed upon the public and promoted by activists and biased critics have shit the bed. And that should be considered a good thing by everyone.
Care to provide examples? Because all I can come up with is Ghostbusters and The Last Jedi, and TLJ is sort of debatable (it made over a billion dollars has a 7.2 on IMDB). And it's sort of convenient to set aside Black Panther when it directly contradicts your argument.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:28 AM   #6
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Care to provide examples? Because all I can come up with is Ghostbusters and The Last Jedi, and TLJ is sort of debatable (it made over a billion dollars has a 7.2 on IMDB).
TLJ had an insane opening weekend and then the word of mouth was very poor. People either loved it or absolutely hated it.

And keep in mind that people WANTED to love TLJ.

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And it's sort of convenient to set aside Black Panther when it directly contradicts your argument.
I would argue that Disney/Marvel weren't pushing SJW angles to Panther but the media/writers/activists were. It wasn't like they made an all black Fantastic Four - it was a pretty close adaptation to Wakanda in the comix.

I think Black Panther and Luke Cage are the perfect examples of how to add diversity to your films: take diverse characters people already love and adapt them to the screen. And as far as female characters go I think they should have made a Black Widow (a known character people already like) way before a Carl Manvers movie. The character already has mystery surrounding her and fans know who she is. I WANT to know what happened to Black Widow.

You don't have to force diversity - you just quit ignoring that you have a plethora of diverse characters you can choose from...
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Old 02-21-2019, 09:55 AM   #7
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You don't have to force diversity - you just quit ignoring that you have a plethora of diverse characters you can choose from...
That's just crazy talk. How can you be more inclusive if you don't try to eliminate the more offensive tropes?
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I mean, they're not perfect, but there's a pretty strong correlation between critic ratings and audience ratings, especially in the action/adventure genre.



It's really amusing to me how much some of you guys want this thing to be bad. I'm not a huge fan of Larson's off-screen antics either, but I hardly care when it comes to a good flick.
I would much rather see the same scatter plot with more recent years. Say 2013 and on, maybe even 2014 or 2015 on. I believe at some point RT critics started whitewashing movies, could have been because the movie studios learned how to control that a little better.

I wouldn't mind seeing the budget on the outliers as well to see if studios had a ton of money invested.
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Say 2013 and on, maybe even 2014 or 2015 on. I believe at some point RT critics started whitewashing movies, could have been because the movie studios learned how to control that a little better.

I wouldn't mind seeing the budget on the outliers as well to see if studios had a ton of money invested.
This.

About the time media all agreed it was ok to flat lie to people was about the time critics sold their credibility to Disney for woke points.

Forget weather you love or hate The Last Jedi anyone watching that thing knew immediately that it would be a film 1/2 the people would love and 1/2 the people would absolutely hate. That was obvious but critics ignored that to help push a big opening weekend.

And honestly it seems like that's all many studios seem to worry about anymore is that big 1st weekend splash. Even if there are diminishing returns it doesn't matter if we get enough asses there opening weekend...
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