The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

[Sam Hall]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I don't want "tradition." I want to win every game going forward. OU doesn't sit around and talk about the past; they want to win now. "Tradition" is only as good as the support/players it helps you to accumulate. NU has fans and facilities due to their tradition. MU has facilities and talent and is rebuilding the fanbase, tradition or no.

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Get used to it.

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Again, this whole thread is sour grapes. Shut the **** up and go cheer for your shitty as team and ugly ****ing coach.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Stop living in the past...yeah great they won in 1997, no one cares now....back it up by being the powerhouse again. Goodluck getting a lawrence phillips and tommie frazier to run the option with success now.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Stop living in the past...yeah great they won in 1997, no one cares now....back it up by being the powerhouse again. Goodluck getting a lawrence phillips and tommie frazier to run the option with success now.

I think Phillips will be out of jail in 10 years or so.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

God, will you ever shut up?

I actually think you're enough of a bitch to play defense for the Huskers. You should call Dicknose and see if he can fit you with a Blackskirt.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

How great do we think Mizzou is? I have posted several times that I think OSU will give us a good scare this Saturday. I've noted that we could very well lose at Texas. How is Mizzou less-great than that? What metric are you attempting to use?

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Tradition.......so you got that going for ya

Who gives a ****! Got your junk handed to you, then come on here throwing around a tradition card? Hope the traditions comfort you through your time of powder puff football. Yes MU fans wanted to go there and win, kinda the ****ing point, ain't it there Opie. Truly a dumb thread.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Oklahoma's past has a positive impact on their present and future. That's the value of tradition. If you can't parlay tradition into continued success, it's not worth a damned thing.

Missouri is a great team, and any objective observer puts them squarely in the middle of the National Championship hunt. Clearly Mizzou doesn't have the tradition of Nebraska , but that doesn't mean that they aren't a better program. Clearly Mizzou is light-years ahead of Nebraska. Do you honestly believe that Nebraska will have more success over the next 10 years than Missouri?

Missouri has the enormous built-in advantage that comes with being the only D-I school in a top 10 state in terms of D-I players coming out of high school. They have a coach who has proven that he can identify talent, keep it in state, and supplement that talent with out of state players when needed.

Nebraska, on the other hand, is turning into a program where coaches go to die. They have no in state talent to speak of, and they used to make a living off of pulling players out of surrounding states including Missouri. Guess what? Those days are over. Why would a player from Missouri choose to go to Nebraska? Tradition? Ask the Husker players what they thought of tradition after Chase Daniel pulled down their pants and made them march in the Homecoming parade. Do you think that Saturday's game did anything other than shovel dirt on Nebraska's grave?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Sam Hall

OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Oklahoma was down for a long time, and it wasn't their tradition that brought them back. It was Bob Stoops. If Nebraska ever makes a comeback, it won't be because of their tradition. It will be because they hire a great coach who turns around a terrible program.

If Bob Stoops had gone to Iowa State, Iowa State would be a powerhouse. If Oklahoma had hired Bill Callahan, they would be where Nebraska is now. Nebraska's tradition may get a coach to answer the phone when the AD calls looking for a new coach, but that window is closing as well. If Pellini doesn't work out, all bets are off. UNL is dangerously close to becoming a resume stain.

[Skip Towne]

I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.

[Saulbadguy]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.

They were down by OU standards in the 90's.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.

1994: 6-6
1995: 5-5-1
1996: 3-8
1997: 4-8
1998: 5-6

That's not that long ago, and you forgot how far down they really were. I'm guessing that you were old enough to have followed college football at the time, too. The same thing is happening to Nebraska in reverse. It was that same period of time when Nebraska was a factor in a national sense. Now kids are supposed to remember that Nebraska was good 10+ years ago...when they were 7 years old?

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Oklahoma was down for a long time, and it wasn't their tradition that brought them back. It was Bob Stoops. If Nebraska ever makes a comeback, it won't be because of their tradition. It will be because they hire a great coach who turns around a terrible program.

If Bob Stoops had gone to Iowa State, Iowa State would be a powerhouse. If Oklahoma had hired Bill Callahan, they would be where Nebraska is now. Nebraska's tradition may get a coach to answer the phone when the AD calls looking for a new coach, but that window is closing as well. If Pellini doesn't work out, all bets are off. UNL is dangerously close to becoming a resume stain.

Exactly!

[KcMizzou]