Chiefs Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note - Page 22

JakeF · 01-09-2019, 03:10 PM

Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional

Guess who’s day to day again.
By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ivisional-game

Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round.

Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury.

“It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’

“So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.”

Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.”

Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback.

Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts.

Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6).

In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout.

It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again.

A note on Dorian O’Daniel

#Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.”

“I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else.

“Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”

**KC Dan** · 01-10-2019, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Social media reports that Berry is out for Saturday’s game.

I've been a Berry supporter but I'm done if he doesn't play. Just eat the cap hit and get someone in that'll play next year. What a waste of talent. Eric - enjoy your multi million dollar life and do charity events.

**007** · 01-10-2019, 08:32 PM

Chiefs*coach Andy Reid was non-committal about Berry's status after he sat out another practice Thursday, simply offering that his star safety is "day by day, same thing it's been throughout the year."

JFC coach stop that shit. It's basically a running joke now. Such bullshit.

FAX · 01-10-2019, 08:33 PM

Based on how the Chiefs handle the "questionable" designation, there's still a better-than 60% chance that he'll play. Sammy "Feets" Watkins, too.

Feets don't fail us now.

FAX

UChieffyBugger · 01-10-2019, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest

You want the last two seasons?

It gets worse for you.

LDT - in two seasons has missed 16 regular season games out of 32 possible.
Berry - in two seasons has missed 29 regular season games out of 32 possible.

LDT - Cap hits total for those 16 games missed? $13.5 million.
Berry - Cap hits total for those 29 games missed? $30 million.

So one guy costing the team 13.5m to sit on the sidelines is GOOD? Because apparently that seems to be the case considering the same clowns crying over Berry are silent about LDT. BOTH are missing games and BOTH cost a lot of money for their respective positions. But yet only ONE gets grief!!!...

penchief · 01-10-2019, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So one guy costing the team 13.5m to sit on the sidelines is GOOD? Because apparently that seems to be the case considering the same clowns crying over Berry are silent about LDT. BOTH are missing games and BOTH cost a lot of money for their respective positions. But yet only ONE gets grief!!!...

Apples v oranges. Berry has been cleared to play all season and has held himself out. Big difference.

**SAUTO** · 01-10-2019, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I've been over this way too many times. You do the research. That way you can answer your own question and learn something.

Ive looked everywhere. No one has said what happened.

FAX · 01-10-2019, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So one guy costing the team 13.5m to sit on the sidelines is GOOD? Because apparently that seems to be the case considering the same clowns crying over Berry are silent about LDT. BOTH are missing games and BOTH cost a lot of money for their respective positions. But yet only ONE gets grief!!!...

Dude (or dudette ... dudeperson ... dudentity ... whichever the case may be), I'm sorry to tell you, but your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

Just so you know ...

FAX THE STRAIGHTFORWARD

-King- · 01-10-2019, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Eric Berry already got his ****ing money when he was a goddamn rookie. That contract was ****ing huge. Then he got cancer and we continued to pay his salary when we didn't have to. It's great that he roared back in his recovery and all, but Dorsey was clearly aware of what cancer does to a body. He wanted to protect the franchise and the business, which he's supposed to do. Unfortunately for him, he decided to do it against a cancer survivor, and that got him fired.

So Berry gets even more money. Lots of it. Guaranteed. He didn't need that 5 year deal. He didn't need ALL of that guaranteed money. But he sure as **** put up a fuss about it after how he was supposedly mistreated by the franchise. He got it, and then this shit happened to him. His body broke down.

When football (and all sports, really) are such a team game, yeah, you'd like to side with the players, but every time a guy gets paid, it takes away the flexibility to acquire other great players who can help us win more games. Playoff games, specifically. Home playoff games where 90% of the fanbase would mud wrestle their own grandmothers for a home playoff win, particularly against a team that just so happens to wreck their shit in agonizing ways.

And when a guy GOT paid in his rookie deal, and got paid when the team didn't have to, and then threw a tantrum until he got paid again LONGTERM, and when the shit we were afraid of paying him for actually happened, business is handled in this cryptic "day-to-day" way when the defense is absolute ****ing dogshit and could (and probably will) cost us a Super Bowl victory...

Well, fans get sick of that shit. At that point, the player who deserved to get paid (even though he already got his money) loses their respect. If he were just on the field but his play quality had gone down a couple notches (like Houston) there wouldn't be the backlash. Instead, we get tweets about his spirit and the same coaches "day to day" line. He didn't play 95% of the ****ing season and we were told "day-to-day". And he can't even retire without still ****ing us over capwise.

That's how bullshit his contract was. He hung out the franchise who cared for him out to ****ing dry. Yeah, the NFL is a business, BUT HE ALREADY GOT HIS ****ING MONEY. Berry was flat-out vindictive in that contract Clark negotiated.

He's not gonna be back. If he does get this thing fixed and is his old self again, great, but at this point, not even Marcellus is predicting that will happen.

He lost my respect. He's financially comfortable. He's cancer-free. So excuse ****ing me for comparing him to a tool or a machine that's just about at the end of its usefulness and needs to be thrown away. But that's basically what his career is now.

He lost your respect by being injured? I agree that this should and I think will be his last year here unless he agrees to the biggest pay cut ever but unless you really think he's faking an injury or playing up this current injury, I don't see what he has done to lose respect.

BleedingRed · 01-10-2019, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He lost your respect by being injured? I agree that this should and I think will be his last year here unless he agrees to the biggest pay cut ever but unless you really think he's faking an injury or playing up this current injury, I don't see what he has done to lose respect.

If he isn’t faking he is a moron for not getting a surgery at the start of the year.

-King- · 01-10-2019, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

If he isn’t faking he is a moron for not getting a surgery at the start of the year.

He and the team thought he'd be able to play later in the year without it. They thought wrong. It happens. The surgery would have taken 6-8 months to heal so either way we'd be talking about how injury prone he is and how much of an albatross his contract is regardless what he did.

UChieffyBugger · 01-10-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Berry has proven to be incredibly selfish. He's the exact opposite of Gil Meche. He won't do anything to give up any money and help the team.

SMH "selfish" for being injured just like LDT is injured? Honestly, some of the BS spewed on this thread is just pathetic and quite concerning. The personal attacks and the complete lack of care for Eric's wellbeing just underlines what I said earlier. Many folks don't see these players as human beings, just "pieces of meat" that entertain them on Sunday's. And folks wonder why Peters told to "fuck off" last season

UChieffyBugger · 01-10-2019, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Dude (or dudette ... dudeperson ... dudentity ... whichever the case may be), I'm sorry to tell you, but your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

Just so you know ...

FAX THE STRAIGHTFORWARD

SMH the comprehension skills around here are weak as fuck

UChieffyBugger · 01-10-2019, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by penchief

Apples v oranges. Berry has been cleared to play all season and has held himself out. Big difference.

"Cleared" by who? The man has an injury that John Wall just had his season ended by. The notion that he is "deciding" not to play is just pathetic and it's spewed by the same idiots who don't give a damn about Eric's health. In order to play Berry most likely has to endure a lot of pain. The fact that folks don't care about that and just want to be "entertained" just sums up this country and many NFL fans tbh.

InChiefsHeaven · 01-10-2019, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

So one guy costing the team 13.5m to sit on the sidelines is GOOD? Because apparently that seems to be the case considering the same clowns crying over Berry are silent about LDT. BOTH are missing games and BOTH cost a lot of money for their respective positions. But yet only ONE gets grief!!!...

I think it's more like people get injured and are out for a season all the time...but Berry has been out for 2 seasons and according to the team, he's "day to day" all this year. I'm not mad at Berry so much as I am the Chiefs. 2 seasons. Granted, hindsight is 20-20 and I'm sure he and the team thought this would not go on as long as it has. But all they've said is it's a "sore heel" and it's "day to day" and then Berry says his "spirit" wasn't feeling it...

...it's because the defense sucks and we need him and he's not there, for whatever reason. We've done fine on Offense without LDT. It's really not the same as much as you'd like to believe it is. If he's got a chronic condition, say it then. It's frustrating, but I don't hate Berry for it.

FloridaMan88 · 01-10-2019, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Social media reports that Berry is out for Saturday’s game.

Russian trolls putting out fake Eric Berry news on social media.

01-09-2019, 03:10 PM
JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Berry missed today's practice, back to Day-To-Day. Also Dorian O'Daniel Note Eric Berry misses Wednesday practice, in question for Saturday’s divisional Guess who’s day to day again. By Pete Sweeney Jan 9, 2019, 2:10pm CST https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2019/...ivisional-game Kansas City Chiefs safety Eric Berry is not practicing Wednesday, the second day of work as the team prepares to take on the Indianapolis Colts on Saturday afternoon in the AFC’s divisional round. Berry missed practice on Friday, December 28, before he was eventually held out of the Chiefs’ final game of the season against the Oakland Raiders. Berry practiced limitedly to start this week on Tuesday, which many felt was a good sign, but he could not participate on Wednesday as he deals with his lingering heel injury. “It’s difficult from the standpoint of he’s a real critical part of our team,” defensive coordinator Bob Sutton said when asked about the uncertainty surrounding the three-time All-Pro. “He’s an outstanding player. He’s one of our true leaders, the guys rally around him, so I think that part is always hard. You get caught up in different things in the season. But also, if you stick back for a second, you say, ‘Man, this is really hard on this guy, too, as a player. This is something he loves to do. He’s been really good at it, and as difficult as it is on us as a defensive unit or us as a team, I think for him, it’s really challenging.’ “So it’s just what it is. There’s not a lot you can do about it, and every week we’ve got our fingers crossed and hope that he can make it back and go. It’s truly—I know you guys get tired of hearing this—it really is a day to day to day thing here right now, the way it’s playing out. You just got to stay in there and go and figure out how to get other guys ready in case he can’t go.” Berry was originally held out of the Chiefs’ first 13 games with what the team described as a sore heel, though reports, which have never been confirmed (nor denied) said Berry has what is called a “Haglund’s deformity.” Berry eventually returned to the lineup to play 30 snaps Week 15 against the Los Angeles Chargers and played 69 snaps Week 16 against the Seattle Seahawks before what has appeared to be some sort of setback. Sutton was asked Wednesday about who would replace Berry and linebacker Dorian O’Daniel, who hasn’t practiced at all this week, if they couldn’t play against the Colts. Without Berry in a must-win game against the Raiders when it came to playoff home-field advantage, the safety snap count breakdown was as follows: Daniel Sorensen (63), Eric Murray (33), Jordan Lucas (32) and Ron Parker (6). In the above breakdown, it is important to note that Sorensen and Lucas earned the start. Lucas suffered a stinger, and the Chiefs eventually removed starters in a 35-3 blowout. It remains to be seen who the Chiefs start against the Colts if Berry cannot play once again. A note on Dorian O’Daniel #Chiefs special teams coordinator Dave Toub on LB Dorian O’Daniel, who has missed two practices this week: “He’s a four-phase starter for us. He’s an important guy, so we’re keeping an eye on that one, pretty close.” “I wouldn’t tell you,” he initially said with a smile. “We have to work guys in, obviously, and just see where guys are. The one good thing is you’re at the point of the season where if you do have to miss some reps and you get better toward to the end of the week, this is probably the time to do it. We just have to kind of roll guys through, which we try to do, anyway, but when you have a guy in question, you have to say, ‘OK,’ because that usually affects somebody else. “Sometimes that affects special teams ... It’s going to affect Dave (Toub) and what he’s putting together, so you got to kind of stay on top of that as a total staff, too. But we just got to slide and we’ve got some different options, but we kind of have to wait and see where it’s at.”
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