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Old 04-12-2017, 07:51 PM   #1
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You're literally comparing them because of their arm strength. That's it.
Well yeah and that's literally all anyone talks about when they talk about Mahomes. It's not like they talk about his accuracy or good decision making.

So how is that different from Bray?
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:08 AM   #2
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Define a pro style offense? I'm guessing it's gonna ha e something to do with being under center, which is like 3 snaps per game anymore.
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Old 04-13-2017, 01:55 PM   #3
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I'd say that accuracy really isn't an issue.

Unless you're talking about it from a pure ball placement issue.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:22 PM   #4
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I'd say that accuracy really isn't an issue.

Unless you're talking about it from a pure ball placement issue.
Yes. Yes completion % looks great. But it looks great under every QB in the air raid offense. The system is made for easy reads and for WRs to be completely wide open making for easy throws. There aren't many air raid QBs with bad completion percentages.

Here's a list of air raid QBs and their perfomances. It's from. 2013 but the point still stands.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...r-raid-offense
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:59 PM   #5
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Yes. Yes completion % looks great. But it looks great under every QB in the air raid offense. The system is made for easy reads and for WRs to be completely wide open making for easy throws. There aren't many air raid QBs with bad completion percentages.

Here's a list of air raid QBs and their perfomances. It's from. 2013 but the point still stands.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl-mock-dra...r-raid-offense
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You do realize that our current offense is set up to be extremely similar to the spread offense Alex played in at Utah right?
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Old 04-17-2017, 01:45 AM   #6
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You do realize that our current offense is set up to be extremely similar to the spread offense Alex played in at Utah right?
And that's not the air raid... Not every spread is the same.
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I just don't see what the difference between Mahomes and Bray is in terms of talent. I get that Mahomes had much better stats but that's only because he was in an air raid offense versus the worst defensive conference in college football whereas Bray played in the SEC.
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Umm ones gonna be a 1st round pick, while the other was an UDFA. They're not even in the same stratosphere as prospects.
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Ok tell me how they're different in terms of ability. Mahomes is more athletic, I'll give you that. What else?
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Exactly. He's also completely ignoring intangibles/character.
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Well yeah and that's literally all anyone talks about when they talk about Mahomes. It's not like they talk about his accuracy or good decision making.

So how is that different from Bray?
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And you're ignoring that Bray had pro style elements in his offense and Mahomes played in the air raid offense against the worst defenses in college football.
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You're the only person in the world that believes Mahomes is equal to Bray as a prospect.

1st round pick vs. UDFA. This isn't hard to understand.
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So tell me what makes Mahomes 7 rounds better than Bray.
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That pretty much sums it all up. I'll add one. Mahomes doesn't have a douchy tattoo of his last name on his ****ing back.
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Mahomes has the same inconsistency and accuracy issues, just that they were masked by the offense he was in. Is anyone saying Mahomes has good accuracy?

And on the flip side Mahomes has no experience running a pro style offense, and has far worse mechanics.

So currently he's better because he's more mobile and is more mature.
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Old 04-16-2017, 09:50 PM   #8
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Boring and out of date.
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Yet, still accurate.
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The more I watch these Gruden videos, the more I lean to a QB in the 3rd. Give me Dobbs or Peterman this year and draft a keeper next year.
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The more I watch these Gruden videos, the more I lean to a QB in the 3rd. Give me Dobbs or Peterman this year and draft a keeper next year.
Yep, drafting quarterbacks in the 3rd will workout this time around. Because after all, it has worked out SO many times before. If you're going to wait until the 3rd for a loser like Dobbs or Peterman you're better off just drafting another position that is likely to contribute.
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The more I watch these Gruden videos, the more I lean to a QB in the 3rd. Give me Dobbs or Peterman this year and draft a keeper next year.
Dobbs is a waste of a draft pick. The only thing he has going for him is his Manningesque forehead.
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