Movies and TV Better Call Saul - Page 24

rico · 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM

As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!

BWillie · 03-25-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Yep. I think Gus should come in at the end of Season 2/Beginning of Season 3.

Watching Gus face off against a pre-stroke Hector Salamanca would have BB fans lubing up across the country.

They might actually want to wait, & give Gus Fring his own show depending on how BCS does, which appears to be going very well so far. They debated initially where to do a spin off of "Better Call Saul" or "The Rise of Gus"

**notorious** · 03-25-2015, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank

Jimmy's pretty lawyer friend.....man....she gonna die. I just know it! and I'm thinking THAT is what creates Saul. pushes him out of the good guy box.

She gets fired, adds a few pounds and becomes Saul's secretary in Breaking Bad.

I kid, I kid.

Chiefspants · 03-25-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

They might actually want to wait, & give Gus Fring his own show depending on how BCS does, which appears to be going very well so far. They debated initially where to do a spin off of "Better Call Saul" or "The Rise of Gus"

Los Pollos Hermanos!

**Gonzo** · 03-25-2015, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

why do you say that?

Mikey is gonna be riding dirty. He's going to need a serious cash infusion, (obviously) and we all know where it ends up going. It might take a few more episodes but I'd expect a Gus appearance before too long.

Chiefspants · 03-25-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Mikey is gonna be riding dirty. He's going to need a serious cash infusion, (obviously) and we all know where it ends up going. It might take a few more episodes but I'd expect a Gus appearance before too long.

I'm with you, but I think it would be better for the show's longevity if they held out on that storyline as long as possible.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2015, 05:18 PM

I think it is highly unlikely that Gilligan would create a universe wherein a crooked vet could introduce a guy who is a few weeks off a train to the biggest meth kingpin in the American Southwest upon a single mention.

**Gonzo** · 03-25-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

I'm with you, but I think it would be better for the show's longevity if they held out on that storyline as long as possible.

That's one thing about the writers... I don't think they really give a shit about longevity. I seem to recall them saying BB wasn't originally forecasted to last as long as it did.
This is probably the best show on TV IMO and I hope it goes 5-6 seasons like BB. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them wrap it up in 4 though.

**Buehler445** · 03-25-2015, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think it is highly unlikely that Gilligan would create a universe wherein a crooked vet could introduce a guy who is a few weeks off a train to the biggest meth kingpin in the American Southwest upon a single mention.

Agreed

**MahiMike** · 03-25-2015, 06:15 PM

Last episode was the best one so far. Saul's $20M dream just died when Chuck went outside. Course, what did they think by asking to go to trial? Chuck can't leave the house. Can't even go to court via Skype.

Zebedee DuBois · 03-25-2015, 06:19 PM

I don't think Saul ever met Fring in BB. I'm not sure he even knew how heavily Mike was working for Gus. He just new Mike as an effective Private Investigator. It was only as Walter started stirring up things that Mike's split loyalties, or employers, became known.

RobBlake · 03-25-2015, 06:27 PM

i would be interesting to see how Mike gets involved with Fring.. like how deep does mike go for that? really interesting

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2015, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Last episode was the best one so far. Saul's $20M dream just died when Chuck went outside. Course, what did they think by asking to go to trial? Chuck can't leave the house. Can't even go to court via Skype.

Jimmy did not ask for $20 million, Chuck did. Chuck's demand is what pushed the negotiation to the precipice of a trial.

Also, Chuck going outside did not kill the dream. Jimmy seeing Chuck triggered Chuck's meta-awareness of his conjured condition. Chuck's issue is one of perception.

RobBlake · 03-25-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jimmy did not ask for $20 million, Chuck did. Chuck's demand is what pushed the negotiation to the precipice of a trial.

Also, Chuck going outside did not kill the dream. Jimmy seeing Chuck triggered Chuck's meta-awareness of his conjured condition. Chuck's issue is one of perception.

Jimmy is perhaps the cause or large part of his condition

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

Jimmy is perhaps the cause or large part of his condition

I don't see how you could reach that conclusion.

Chuck has a phobia of electromagnetism that stems from his perception of its presence, not it actually being there, as indicated by the doctor turning on the hospital bed.

It isn't an issue of hypersensitivity; also, given what we've seen in flashbacks, it is obvious that Jimmy and Chuck A) were not close (given their conversation in Chicago) and B) that Jimmy was nothing other than responsible, working his way through law school and passing the bar while also working in the mail room of HHM.

Given that, how could Jimmy have caused Chuck's condition? It appears far more likely that Chuck works in a high stress job and likely suffered some form of stress-induced psychotic break that manifests itself as a fear of electromagnetism.

eDave · 03-25-2015, 09:52 PM

They emphasized the copy code scene a bit too much for my tastes. I'd have liked that foreshadowing to be a bit more subtle.

HHM can't use copy machines for personal use?

/not a lawyer.

10-06-2013, 11:01 PM
rico ON CP YOU’RE SOMEBODY’S BITCH! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Da SEI Casino cash: $4624809	Better Call Saul As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad." I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later. So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine: Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass. Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days. Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off. Thoughts? DISCUS!!!!
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	I think it is highly unlikely that Gilligan would create a universe wherein a crooked vet could introduce a guy who is a few weeks off a train to the biggest meth kingpin in the American Southwest upon a single mention.
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MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Last episode was the best one so far. Saul's $20M dream just died when Chuck went outside. Course, what did they think by asking to go to trial? Chuck can't leave the house. Can't even go to court via Skype. __________________ 99.9%
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Zebedee DuBois Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: floating in a tin can Casino cash: $1835199	I don't think Saul ever met Fring in BB. I'm not sure he even knew how heavily Mike was working for Gus. He just new Mike as an effective Private Investigator. It was only as Walter started stirring up things that Mike's split loyalties, or employers, became known. __________________ What am I even doing here?
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RobBlake Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10011127	i would be interesting to see how Mike gets involved with Fring.. like how deep does mike go for that? really interesting
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03-25-2015, 09:52 PM	#360
eDave Banned Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $9998560	They emphasized the copy code scene a bit too much for my tastes. I'd have liked that foreshadowing to be a bit more subtle. HHM can't use copy machines for personal use? /not a lawyer.
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