Football Jets hire Adam Gase to be HC - Page 3

**The Franchise** · 01-09-2019, 06:58 PM

Jets expected to hire HC Adam Gase, per me and @JeffDarlington.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 10, 2019

**wazu** · 01-09-2019, 07:22 PM

Terrible hire. The cycle continues.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-09-2019, 07:23 PM

This is great for us. If he can’t develop Darnold to his full potential, that’s a major plus for the AFC playoff picture going forward.

staylor26 · 01-09-2019, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Then go back to 16 where he still had a drop off despite a big season from Ajayi and Parker, Stills, Landry, and an OL loaded with high draft picks.

Oh you mean the year he had his highest completion % and best rating?

You’re looking at his totals when he missed 3 games and had 200+ less attempts than in the 3 previous years.

Sounds like you just think he should’ve somehow made Tannehill a better QB than he really was.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-09-2019, 07:32 PM

Under Gase, Tannehill's INT percentage went up, his TD percentage went down, his YPG dropped.

If Gase was good at developing a QB, you would have seen some measure of improvement from Tannehill in 2016 when he had more weapons, and a better line. But he regressed.

If Gase was a good offensive mind, you would have expected a spike in Chicago. His only year there the Bears were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. The year before...with Marc Trestman, they were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. No, that is not a typo.

Gase doesn't do anything, nor does he really beat the Patriots, going 2-4 against them.

DJ's left nut · 01-09-2019, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Bengals. I have a feeling. Down in my plums.

Likewise.

Mecca · 01-09-2019, 07:34 PM

Adam Gase gets jobs cause he once coached Peyton Manning. He's a shit coach, the Jets continue to Jet.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-09-2019, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

Oh you mean the year he had his highest completion % and best rating?

You’re looking at his totals when he missed 3 games and had 200+ less attempts than in the 3 previous years.

Sounds like you just think he should’ve somehow made Tannehill a better QB than he really was.

Which is why I used YPG instead of raw yardage. Everyone knows you can dink and dunk and improve your completion percentage and rating. It's how Sam Bradford conned NFL teams out of 130 million dollars. It's why idiots like you thought Alex Smith was a viable QB. It also doesn't translate.

He didn't have to make Tannehill better than he was capable of, but he made him an objectively worse quarterback. QBs with more weapons and more experience generally improve unless they're put in bad systems or have bad coaches. Gase has never done anything for any team. Manning ran the show in Denver, installing his own system, and Gase's presence in Chicago couldn't even improve upon the dumpster fire that was Marc Trestman.

tk13 · 01-09-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Jets want a coach who can beat the Patriots. Gase has proven to be a guy who can beat the Patriots.
Widely considered to be an offensive guru and works well with QBs.

I can see why the Jets hired him. Not bad IMO.

Brady has never played well against the Dolphins. I think it has more to do with that than Gase.

Sassy Squatch · 01-09-2019, 07:38 PM

Take a wild guess as to who his new DC will probably be.

staylor26 · 01-09-2019, 07:38 PM

He didn’t even get a full season out of the guy in 3 ****ing years

He played 24 games for Gase, and in half of those his WR’s weren’t healthy.

It’s hard to make a QB like Tannehill look good or better than he is when he’s not even on the field 50% of the time.

I live in South Florida so the Fins are like a second team (that I hate) and even the fans that wanted Gase gone will tell you he got the most out of Tannehill.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-09-2019, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

He didn’t even get a full season out of the guy in 3 ****ing years

He played 24 games for Gase, and in half of those his WR’s weren’t healthy.

It’s hard to make a QB like Tannehill look good or better than he is when he’s not even on the field 50% of the time.

I live in South Florida so the Fins are like a second team (that I hate) and even the fans that wanted Gase gone will tell you he got the most out of Tannehill.

You don't have to make Tannehill better than he is. You have to make him not worse than he was. Gase didn't do that.

Mecca · 01-09-2019, 07:43 PM

Adam Gase just sucks ok, let's not have a ****ing debate. The only time he ever did shit was when he had a job I could have ****ing done the same.

staylor26 · 01-09-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You don't have to make Tannehill better than he is. You have to make him not worse than he was. Gase didn't do that.

But the only reason you’re saying he’s worse is because you’re comparing his #’s with Gase, whom he could even finish a season for, to a career year when he played 16 games and everything went right.

Of course his numbers aren’t going to look as good. They’re still not even that much worse.

What you’re trying to do is intellectually dishonest.

Mecca · 01-09-2019, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

But the only reason you’re saying he’s worse is because you’re comparing his #’s with Gase, whom he could even finish a season for, to a career year when he played 16 games and everything went right.

Of course his numbers aren’t going to look as good. They’re still not even that much worse.

What you’re trying to do is intellectually dishonest.

Adam Gase is an offensive guru who only produced good offensive numbers when he had Peyton Manning, see a problem here?

staylor26 · 01-09-2019, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Adam Gase is an offensive guru who only produced good offensive numbers when he had Peyton Manning, see a problem here?

I’m sure that has nothing to do with the QB’s he’s had since.

Cutler had one of his best years with Gase (career low INT’s and career high QBR) and he got the most out of Tannehill despite the fact that he’s been a brokedick since he got there.

That’s all that matters.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Under Gase, Tannehill's INT percentage went up, his TD percentage went down, his YPG dropped. If Gase was good at developing a QB, you would have seen some measure of improvement from Tannehill in 2016 when he had more weapons, and a better line. But he regressed. If Gase was a good offensive mind, you would have expected a spike in Chicago. His only year there the Bears were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. The year before...with Marc Trestman, they were 23rd in the league in points and 21st in yards. No, that is not a typo. Gase doesn't do anything, nor does he really beat the Patriots, going 2-4 against them. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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staylor26 In Search of a Life Join Date: Oct 2007 Casino cash: $1809040	He didn’t even get a full season out of the guy in 3 ****ing years He played 24 games for Gase, and in half of those his WR’s weren’t healthy. It’s hard to make a QB like Tannehill look good or better than he is when he’s not even on the field 50% of the time. I live in South Florida so the Fins are like a second team (that I hate) and even the fans that wanted Gase gone will tell you he got the most out of Tannehill.
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