***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Hamas if youre around, could we prophylactically take the Malarial drug?

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

I am going to stay off this thread as much as possible today.

but 1 question---Why don't they just shut the NYSE down?? Isn't that too many people in one place????

I think they did? At least, shut down the trading floor

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hamas if youre around, could we prophylactically take the Malarial drug?

There's no evidence it stops viral entry and it can be dangerous for certain populations. The one study referencing it with zithromax pointed to possible resistance as well.

Given the likelihood that most are asymptomatic, I think that would be unwise decision from a population health standpoint. For those with known exposure and who have comorbidities, it may be defensible.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by wazu

Keep seeing this in places like this. How is it not the lead story on every news site?

It's kind of like "someone is developing a vaccine." There are lots of drugs that are showing promise. The problem is that 1) they have to go through extensive testing before we consider them to truly be viable and 2) it takes a while to ramp up production.

Is it promising? Definitely. Is it going to change the world tomorrow? Nope. We just have to hope that the process to get some of these drugs and vaccines actually into full production and distribution goes as quickly as possible.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Hamas if youre around, could we prophylactically take the Malarial drug?

Drink it from a condom?

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

I am going to stay off this thread as much as possible today.

but 1 question---Why don't they just shut the NYSE down?? Isn't that too many people in one place????

They are moving to electronic trading only on 3.23.20....Two floor traders have tested positive. Why they haven't shut it down before now is beyond me.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There's no evidence it stops viral entry and it can be dangerous for certain populations. The one study referencing it with zithromax pointed to possible resistance as well.

Given the likelihood that most are asymptomatic, I think that would be unwise decision from a population health standpoint. For those with known exposure and who have comorbidities, it may be defensible.

That's what I was thinking.

IIRC, it essentially disrupts the viral coat and allows the zinc to **** with the mRNA sequence proliferation. I'm way out of my area here though, but that's my recollection from therapeutics.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's kind of like "someone is developing a vaccine." There are lots of drugs that are showing promise. The problem is that 1) they have to go through extensive testing before we consider them to truly be viable and 2) it takes a while to ramp up production.

Is it promising? Definitely. Is it going to change the world tomorrow? Nope. We just have to hope that the process to get some of these drugs and vaccines actually into full production and distribution as soon as possible.

They've got the results from the French study, the French are now running a huge study and they're employing it at the university of Minnesota as of yesterday.

I'm hopeful this will help.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's kind of like "someone is developing a vaccine." There are lots of drugs that are showing promise. The problem is that 1) they have to go through extensive testing before we consider them to truly be viable and 2) it takes a while to ramp up production.

Is it promising? Definitely. Is it going to change the world tomorrow? Nope. We just have to hope that the process to get some of these drugs and vaccines actually into full production and distribution as soon as possible.

Fortunately, they've already eliminated the normal animal testing requirements and are fast tracking just about all potential candidates.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by wazu

Keep seeing this in places like this. How is it not the lead story on every news site?

Because Iran is on there?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Fish

Fortunately, they've already eliminated the normal animal testing requirements and are fast tracking just about all potential candidates.

The entirety of the scientific world is united on this.

The ****er doesn't stand a chance.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because Iran is on there?

They have a malaria problem?

[IUsedToBeATightEnd]

Originally Posted by wazu

Did you click on the article?

Yes. I just said that including in statistics those countries where the spreading of the virus is unclear can be misleading.
Be it about Cloroquine, mortality rate or anything else.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

America's response is 100% on America.

Go back and read the first 10 pages of this thread. Its ugly.

Completely lack of self-reflection and accountability for being wrong is a key trait of the BIG_DADDY's of the world. It's like memento for them every day.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Completely lack of self-reflection and accountability for being wrong is a key trait of the BIG_DADDY's of the world. It's like memento for them every day.

Look, we'll deal with that later.

Right now isn't the time. It doesn't do any good for anyone. We're gonna need each other to get thru this shit.