Colquitt says Tommy is Butker’s problem

[Dante84]

Watch the holds & try saying that again…on the extra point the laces on facing the sidelines…he’s screwed him all year

— Dustin Colquitt (@dustincolquitt2) December 19, 2022

Big fan of his punting(very exceptional actually) his holding is very average

— Dustin Colquitt (@dustincolquitt2) December 19, 2022

In 2018, he had nearly 30% more attempts…more chances to miss

— Dustin Colquitt (@dustincolquitt2) December 19, 2022

2020 Tommy was holding you…DS….please do some sort of research before commenting

— Dustin Colquitt (@dustincolquitt2) December 19, 2022

Made vs missed extra points from this game. pic.twitter.com/eLk5CYXukx

— Michael (@Schwing_M) December 19, 2022

Tommy’s response:

Coach Reid preaches this all the time.. don’t listen to people outside of the building they have no idea what they’re talking about. Back to work this week preparing for Seattle!

— Tommy Townsend (@tommy_townsend) December 19, 2022

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I really want to stress that none of these people you guys are mentioning are cdcox.

lolz

[Bearcat]

Now I'm mostly wondering what cdcox must have done to get into Direckshun's head so badly for one incredibly innocent post.

[MVChiefFan]

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, Colquitt was pretty salty when he was replaced by Townsend. Also, can anyone think of one other instance ever on any other team where the holder has been THE problem? I’ve never heard of a kicker sucking and so the team cuts/changes the holder and says “that was why our kicker was shit.”

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Would you like a cookie son?

I'd trust Colquitt on this one, got a few weeks before playoffs to get on the same page.

Whaddaya know? They’re little footballs.

[Oh Snap]

Originally Posted by cdcox

His foot didn't hit the laces. It has zero effect.

Hold on now...there might actually be some centripetal force and aerodynamics to this thing.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, Colquitt was pretty salty when he was replaced by Townsend. Also, can anyone think of one other instance ever on any other team where the holder has been THE problem? I’ve never heard of a kicker sucking and so the team cuts/changes the holder and says “that was why our kicker was shit.”

Twice. i think. One was just a few years ago, no more than 4 I guess, because i remember watching a game and the view was from above the crossbar, so you're looking straight at the holder/kicker. That guy kept spinning the ball in the wrong direction, and on that kick, I watched the laces go from the left front to the back, and i posted 'miss" right as he shanked it to the viewer's right.

pretty sure I read or heard a few weeks later that they'd changed holders.

The other one was decades ago, but i think that holder was just having trouble catching the ball cleanly. He got replaced by the backup QB.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Yeah, and if I remember correctly, Colquitt was pretty salty when he was replaced by Townsend. Also, can anyone think of one other instance ever on any other team where the holder has been THE problem? I’ve never heard of a kicker sucking and so the team cuts/changes the holder and says “that was why our kicker was shit.”

Dustin had an awful year in 2019-2020 but yeah, he took being cut really hard (even though it was past time and he got a ring on the way out).

But the discussion is interesting. Butker is having a really off year. And while folks are quick to point out the injury, it doesn't make sense as to why Andy would then trust him to hit make or break 55 yard and 51 yard field goals in the span of 3 weeks. Something feels wonky about all of it.

[jerryaldini]

I support Tommy, he's been a major field flipper. And I support cdcox. Cause he's, well, he's cdcox.

[jettio]

When the operation is clicking, Winchester tries to deliver the ball to the holder with laces at a specific orientation.

The missed PAT looked like Butker's follow through was very different from what he usually does. The missed FG camera view was from behind, so not easy to compare.

The operation needs to practice and get ready. Supposed to be arctic cold next Saturday versus Seahawks.

Today, I had the least confidence that I have ever had for a important Butker kick. I would have been more surprised if he had made it than I was disappointed he missed.

Game was tied, so I was not that worried. Chiefs could have tried to get more yards with the time they had. Chiefs should have played it like Chiefs were down 1 or 2 points and needed the FG not to lose.

[Fishels]

I just want it to get better and asap

[chiefzilla1501]

He may sound salty but he complimented tommy as a punter. He’s not begging for him to get cut. He just doesn’t think he’s a good holder.

Man, colquitt was an excellent punter but he was also an outstanding holder. So many times he bailed out some really awful snaps with a stellar hold

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He may sound salty but he complimented tommy as a punter. He’s not begging for him to get cut. He just doesn’t think he’s a good holder.

Man, colquitt was an excellent punter but he was also an outstanding holder. So many times he bailed out some really awful snaps with a stellar hold

Yep. Not an athlete though, I remember the few times he tried to throw it.

I'm a total sucker for Colquitt though. There was a LONG DARK time when the punting unit was the only unit executing.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Man I was gonna post the same thing. Man is tweeting like he’s on the sauce tonight.

Hopefully not. Posts like this if he is under the influence would indicate a problem, and I don't want that for the former team MVP.

[Jenson71]

What’s Dan Stryzinski‘s take on this?

[Megatron96]

So I just watched about 20 kicks from Colquitt's final season, and it's nearly impossible from some angles and distances to see exactly which direction the laces are pointed, except that they are never on the back side of the ball. But the angle is consistent, depending on which hash it's on or in the middle.

Generally, the ball appears slightly tilted to the right when facing the uprights POV on the right hash. In the middle or on the left hash it appears to be essentially vertical, sometimes with a tiny cant to the left. This makes some sense, as that tilt to the right would put a little more contact area on the ball, which should create a little draw. I think anyway. I was a soccer player, not a PK. But if you want to bend the ball in soccer it's all about contact area and impact angle.

Also never noticed it before that much, but Winchester can sometimes be a little inaccurate with his snaps. Colquitt was a hell of a catcher.