Call Your Shot: Who's the Chiefs first pick?

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

When you frame it like this, it sounds a lot worse than what it was in reality. As I said, damn near 800 yards and 7 TDs. That's a productive season as a Georgia WR in that offense. It's almost as if you're being completely disingenuous.

I knew the Skyy Moore comparison would come at some point too. A tell tale sign of somebody that is just looking at stats and hasn't really done their homework.

There's very little comaprison between the two, even removing hindsight with Skyy. The tape is put there. Like I said, he got separation with ease in the SEC and at the Senior Bowl. You are simply looking at him as a white small WR, looking at his stats, and that's it.

800 yards is NOT impressive in the best team in college football dude. Legette got 500 yards more playing against the same opposition in the same league for an inferior team. Legette is also a far better deep threat than McConkey, which is an area that we need to improve on with MVS going and all the sounds around how we are going to utilise Hollywood Brown.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

800 yards is NOT impressive in the best team in college football dude. Legette got 500 yards more playing against the same opposition in the same league for an inferior team. Legette is also a far better deep threat than McConkey, which is an area that we need to improve on with MVS going and all the sounds around how we are going to utilise Hollywood Brown.

What did George Pickens have at Georgia?

Adonai Mitchell?

Jermaine Burton?

800 yards at Georgia is a productive season. They aren't the "best team in football" because they're out there slinging it on Saturday's. You understand that, right? Not to mention, their QB play is average at best.

It's so obvious that you have never watched the guy play, and are simply looking at stats with zero context/nuance whatsoever.

Also, to be so focused on production, while simultaneously bringing up Legette as a better alternative is laughable. You're talking about a guy that did absolutely nothing for 4 years, then had a monster 5th year at 23 years old. And I actually like Legette.

Legette was at the same Senior Bowl that McConkey dominated. Not a single person can watch both guys that week and come away thinking Legette is the better player. They went against the same exact DBs, and McConkey was the guy that nobody could cover, not even a projected top 20 pick.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What did George Pickens have at Georgia?

Adonai Mitchell?

Jermaine Burton?

800 yards at Georgia is a productive season. They aren't the "best team in football" because they're out there slinging it on Saturday's. You understand that, right? Not to mention, their QB play is average at best.

It's so obvious that you have never watched the guy play, and are simply looking at stats with zero context/nuance whatsoever.

Also, to be so focused on production, while simultaneously bringing up Legette as a better alternative is laughable. You're talking about a guy that did absolutely nothing for 4 years, then had a monster 5th year at 23 years old. And I actually like Legette.

Legette was at the same Senior Bowl that McConkey dominated. Not a single person can watch both guys that week and come away thinking Legette is the better player. They went against the same exact DBs, and McConkey was the guy that nobody could cover, not even a projected top 20 pick.

Shut the **** up homer. Perhaps I'm focused on production because it's actually the be all and end all for WRs. Listen, if we're drafting Ladd McConkey in the third round after getting a guy like Legette in a previous round then I'd be okay with it. But to spend our first round pick on a guy with borderline JAG college production to join a team that suffered through last year due to having JAG production WRs like Moore you homered on ain't a good thing. I'd rather get a guy in who can own a specific WR role than a JAG of all traits kinda guy.

Talk down all you want to me boy. You full on homered a guy who is perhaps the worst WR I have ever seen in the NFL. Your opinion means shit to me.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

Shut the **** up homer. Perhaps I'm focused on production because it's actually the be all and end all for WRs. Listen, if we're drafting Ladd McConkey in the third round after getting a guy like Legette in a previous round then I'd be okay with it. But to spend our first round pick on a guy with borderline JAG college production to join a team that suffered through last year due to having JAG production WRs like Moore you homered on ain't a good thing. I'd rather get a guy in who can own a specific WR role than a JAG of all traits kinda guy.

Talk down all you want to me boy. You full on homered a guy who is perhaps the worst WR I have ever seen in the NFL. Your opinion means shit to me.

McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1.678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make ****ing sense.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1.678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make ****ing sense.

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

You said production is the "be all end all", not me.

McConkey was the more productive player on a per route, per game, AND per year basis by far. The only reason it is even remotely close is because Legette played 5 YEARS.

Spencer Rattler is significantly better than any QB McConkey ever played with too, so your argument about situation is just as weak. Like I said, Georgia is the "best team" because they run the football and play defense, dipshit.

Again, too ****ing reeruned to argue with.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You said production is the "be all end all", not me.

McConkey was the more productive player on a per route, per game, AND per year basis by far. The only reason it is even remotely close is because Legette played 5 YEARS.

Spencer Rattler is significantly better than any QB McConkey ever played with too, so your argument about situation is just as weak. Like I said, Georgia is the "best team" because they run the football and play defense, dipshit.

Again, too ****ing reeruned to argue with.

Disingenuous reerun saying 5 years when he was only played as the WR1 for one of those. And he easily beat out your bumboy in the one year he was given that opportunity.

Your argument about the QB would make sense if there weren't TE's getting more yards and RBs competing with him for 2nd place receiver. I guess the QB must just be bad at throwing the ball to WRs but is elite at passing to the TE and RBs....

If your boy McConkey is so ****ing productive then where are his yards? Why is it that he is being asked to run so few routes? You tell me. Are his coaches terrible? Is he a broke dick? Did he leave his playbook in his Corvette? What's the deal Scooby Doo?

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Womble

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

It’s late in the UK. Sober up and get a ****ing clue. You’ll be better for it in the morning.

[staylor26]

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"

Originally Posted by staylor26

McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1,678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make ****ing sense.

Imagine being this ****ing reeruned

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"



Imagine being this ****ing reeruned

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

and again, he missed the first four games this year vs the stat padding teams, he averaged nearly 100 yards a game last year when he played.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

and again, he missed the first four games this year vs the stat padding teams, he averaged nearly 100 yards a game last year when he played.

Womble is too stupid to grasp this. He just wants to look at the total yards this season and scream about his lack of production.

Nobody is even saying his production is great. It's just disingenuous to look at totals and ignore all the context/nuance in his situation.

[Womble]

Originally Posted by staylor26

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"



Imagine being this ****ing reeruned

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

WR1 for 2 years in Georgia has less yards than a WR1 for South Carolina in 1 year. The same WR1 for Georgia got trounced by a tight end in all years and heroically just about beat out a RB for receiving yards in his best ever season. That Georgia guy sure sounds like a first rounder ehh!

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Womble

WR1 for 2 years in Georgia has less yards than a WR1 for South Carolina in 1 year. The same WR1 for Georgia got trounced by a tight end in all years and heroically just about beat out a RB for receiving yards in his best ever season. That Georgia guy sure sounds like a first rounder ehh!

Why did it take Legette 5 years to become WR1 at South Carolina?

I guess now you're going to tell me he had tougher competition than McConkey, who beat out Adonai Mitchell and Jermaine Burton for that spot.

I wonder if Legette would've been as productive this year in a run first offense with a game manager college QB.