Joe Flacco traded to Broncos

[Hammock Parties]

Breaking: Baltimore has agreement in principle to trade former Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco to the Broncos, league sources told ESPN.

Trade cannot be processed until new NFL league year begins Wednesday, March 13. Teams prohibited from commenting on deal or terms surrounding it.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 13, 2019

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Meh...

You can “We shall see” all you want, but you gotta admit that right now the odds are against Denver doing anything noteworthy in the next 5 years or so. Perhaps more if the ownership situation doesn’t stabilize

[TEX]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

You can “We shall see” all you want, but you gotta admit that right now the odds are against Denver doing anything noteworthy in the next 5 years or so. Perhaps more if the ownership situation doesn’t stabilize

That's his standard answer for most everything that he knows can blow up in Denver's face.... BTW, he said it would be a "Quick Turnaround."

[fan4ever]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

****ing NO

you chop-blocking, vaseline-smearing, non-called-false-starting, illegal-screen-calling, salary-cap-circumventing-assed WHORES!

TAKE YOUR ****ING MEDICINE

YOU ARE OUR ****ING BITCHES NOW AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

BEND THE ****ING KNEE

You forgot steroid using...

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You don't know if you don't try. Like the Chiefs for 35+ years before Patrick Mahomes.

I’m with you, but Andy was 100% right in choosing to wait. I wanted us to draft Derek Carr, but looking back in hindsight, this was 100% the right move.

Yeah we could have just taken someone to take them, but it would have been Dak Prescott, Derek Carr, Geno Smith or even Paxton Lynch. At best, you are getting the same thing. Dak Prescott is basically Alex Smith...a limited QB who relies heavily on scheme.

Appreciate how lucky we are. Besides Pat, here are the QB’s since Aaron Rodgers that are worth the investment and can carry your team:

Carson Wentz
Andrew Luck
Russell Wilson
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Cam Newton

That’s a short list in the last 13 years. And honestly a few of those guys are debatable.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

That's his standard answer for most everything that he knows can blow up in Denver's face.... BTW, he said it would be a "Quick Turnaround."

I do view 'quick' to be shorter than 5 years. I think the trade for Flacco is a strange move when they kind of already have that. Flacco is better than Keenum, but not vastly better. Both are short-term pseudo-fixes.

None of it matters if they don't address the OL and find a viable consistent threat at TE.

[Doob02]

The simple fact that you think a TE can really help fix things speaks volumes...

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I do view 'quick' to be shorter than 5 years. I think the trade for Flacco is a strange move when they kind of already have that. Flacco is better than Keenum, but not vastly better. Both are short-term pseudo-fixes.

None of it matters if they don't address the OL and find a viable consistent threat at TE.

The deal is, it's going into year 4, or 3, depending on how you look at it. It's not going to turn around in one or two years. And the best part is, that once you do finally start to turn things around, you'll think that you have a legit shot, but you won't, unless you have THAT guy under center, but that's doubtful because Elway seems pretty clueless about that part.

[DeepPurple]

I thought Flacco would go to the Jaguars or maybe even the Redskins not knowing if Smith will ever play again. The one thing about Flacco, in 11 seasons he started 16 games in 9 of those, so he's pretty sturdy for that position. I've seen him get hit so many terrible times and he would just bounce back up. That's something that Foles can't say at Philly, if he had come available.

Actually before he got injured this last season, he was having one of his better years;

9 games 232 completions 379 attempts 61% 2465 yards 12 TD 6 int 10.6 yac 273 yards a game QBR 84.2

[CrossCheck]

Originally Posted by Doob02

The simple fact that you think a TE can really help fix things speaks volumes...

Elway is as bad at picking Tight Ends as QBs, 3 in the last 4 years and they are still looking.

I heard on the radio today that in Baltimore they called Flacco the pocket sloth...lol

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Doob02

The simple fact that you think a TE can really help fix things speaks volumes...

Never said TE would be the end-all problem solver... I'm a believer that having a legitimate pass catching threat at that position is a must have. The OL is the greater concern.

Originally Posted by TEX

The deal is, it's going into year 4, or 3, depending on how you look at it. It's not going to turn around in one or two years. And the best part is, that once you do finally start to turn things around, you'll think that you have a legit shot, but you won't, unless you have THAT guy under center, but that's doubtful because Elway seems pretty clueless about that part.

We're going into Year 4 after Manning. 2016 wasn't a terrible year, but the last 2 were, without question terrible years. I said after the SB win that it bought them time for me.

I know Rome isn't built in a day. There were six seasons of nothing to write home about between Plummer and Manning. We're going into Year 4 of this next transition.

I'm in it for the long game, so I can fight through the shit seasons to get there. I firmly do not believe this will be a decade's long battle to get back to watching really good football.

Denver is in the Cutler/Orton/Tebow phase... they'll get out of it, maybe they draft a guy that turns out to be great. Maybe Flacco (doubt it) somehow finds magic in his twilight years. Maybe they twist in the wind another couple of years.

I'm just along for the ride...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

We're going into Year 4 after Manning. 2016 wasn't a terrible year, but the last 2 were, without question terrible years. I said after the SB win that it bought them time for me.

I know Rome isn't built in a day. There were six seasons of nothing to write home about between Plummer and Manning. We're going into Year 4 of this next transition.

I'm in it for the long game, so I can fight through the shit seasons to get there. I firmly do not believe this will be a decade's long battle to get back to watching really good football.

Denver is in the Cutler/Orton/Tebow phase... they'll get out of it, maybe they draft a guy that turns out to be great. Maybe Flacco (doubt it) somehow finds magic in his twilight years. Maybe they twist in the wind another couple of years.

I'm just along for the ride...

So you're counting on Elway FINALLY drafting a QB that's worth something? What gives you any faith at all that he can actually get it right or are you just hoping beyond hope that he hits on one blindly?

[Halfcan]

Must be tough to be a Donk fan this week- Good news- you get rid of Case.

Bad News- Joe Flucko is now your QB.

The same QB that was hurt last year and lost his job to another kid that can't even throw the ball. Embarrassing.

Meanwhile, your hated division rival has the NFL MVP and is already 3-0 against you in his short career.

[FringeNC]

Drafting QBs is hard. You can forgive Denver for Lynch. The Keenum thing was questionable, but THIS THIS...is insanity. Giving up a 4th and paying 20+ million for a replacement level player? One of the worst moves in the NFL I can ever remember. Maybe I'm being too harsh. Can the Broncos just cut Flacco and walk away losing only a 4th?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Drafting QBs is hard. You can forgive Denver for Lynch. The Keenum thing was questionable, but THIS THIS...is insanity. Giving up a 4th and paying 20+ million for a replacement level player? One of the worst moves in the NFL I can ever remember. Maybe I'm being too harsh. Can the Broncos just cut Flacco and walk away losing only a 4th?

no

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you're counting on Elway FINALLY drafting a QB that's worth something? What gives you any faith at all that he can actually get it right or are you just hoping beyond hope that he hits on one blindly?

It's a process... they made some calculated risks and they failed with Brock and Lynch. They have over-reacted to those failures with Case and Flacco. Siemian wasn't terrible. Hell, had they fixed the OL... who knows he could have been an adequate option for a few years until they found the next true starter.

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Must be tough to be a Donk fan this week- Good news- you get rid of Case.

Bad News- Joe Flucko is now your QB.

The same QB that was hurt last year and lost his job to another kid that can't even throw the ball. Embarrassing.

Meanwhile, your hated division rival has the NFL MVP and is already 3-0 against you in his short career.

Things are cyclical... if we're still dealing with this in 3-4 years, then yeah - total failure.