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Old 08-28-2017, 11:12 AM  
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Chiefs trade for LB Reggie Ragland

Chiefs have acquired LB Reggie Ragland from the Bills in a trade.

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Old 08-28-2017, 01:12 PM   #91
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GM could have got his pick of the healthy and just-as-talented LB litter from upcoming cuts without tossing away a draft pick.
It's almost certainly a non-factor draft pick from the 2019 lot. Probably a 7th.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:12 PM   #92
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GM could have got his pick of the healthy and just-as-talented LB litter from upcoming cuts without tossing away a draft pick.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:14 PM   #93
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It is a CONDITIONAL pick.. not sure what the conditions are, but it could be based on snaps, etc..
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:17 PM   #94
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GM could have got his pick of the healthy and just-as-talented LB litter from upcoming cuts without tossing away a draft pick.
...sorry, there will be no 1st round graded 3-4 LBs available in the 2nd year of their rookie contracts.

The guy hasn't even played a real game yet.....he's essentially still a rookie that got hurt.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:18 PM   #95
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:18 PM   #96
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GM could have got his pick of the healthy and just-as-talented LB litter from upcoming cuts without tossing away a draft pick.
Guy was a potential first round pick last year and there is a litter of people like him about to be cut?
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:19 PM   #97
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Looks fat and a Kendrell Bell type. 2 down LB?
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:32 PM   #98
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This ****ing place, I swear.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:35 PM   #99
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It's a conditional pick? Thought I read it was a 4th
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:35 PM   #100
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I'm no expert on American English but maybe where he comes from Healthy and Just as talented means old and broken.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:37 PM   #101
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So just for anybody who's like "who is this guy," he's a dude who did everything very well out of Alabama -- and only really lacked really good speed.

He's amazing in run defense, and is pretty good in coverage.

He's big for an ILB (250+ lbs) but he's more than a thumper. He does have three down versatility.

Although, if you just make him a thumper, you've got a hell of a thumper. This guy is like an additional DL on the field against the run.

He's very fundamentally sound -- this is not a John Dorsey "coach them from the ground up" kind of guy.

His only mark on him at this point is how well he recovers from injury. That's pretty much it, folks. And KC's got as good a trainers' room as anybody in the league.

Get this guy healthy, don't cut corners with him, and he's a starting-caliber LB in a year.

Edit: Oh, yeah, forgot to mention, he's a heart-and-soul type character. He's someone the locker room follows.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:40 PM   #102
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:41 PM   #103
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REGGIE RAGLAND, Alabama

Measurables: 6-1, 247, 23, 4.72

Bio: Two-year starter who had 102 tackles (6.5 for loss), six quarterback hurries and 2.5 sacks in 15 games in 2015. Also had zero interceptions and seven pass deflections.

Consensus: Smart, productive player who has the look of an old-school inside linebacker. Has the bulk to hold up in the box and at the point of attack against offensive linemen in the running game. Uses his hands well. Long speed isn’t great but he shuffles his feet well and shows good short-area quickness and burst. Packs a punch as a tackler. Has good instincts; plays the game with his eyes. Does a nice job sifting through trash against the run. Occasionally lined up as an edge rusher in a three-point stance. Leader who reportedly has good football character. Lost 12 pounds from the Senior Bowl to the combine; will need to keep his weight in check.
Terez gave him a bottom-of-the-first round grade.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:41 PM   #104
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Moves like this make me less and less worried about Dorsey's departure. You can always improve your team. This move makes a ton of sense.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:41 PM   #105
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You don't think Ragland can play in space?
'Can't' would be strong.

'hasn't' seems fair. Alabama just generally doesn't ask it of their LBs so you're going largely based on skill-set and hoping you can teach the nuance/instincts required of the position.

Until I see it done, I'd have a hard time taking it on faith. I think he has some decent tools but he isn't that kind of freak natural athlete that DJ was (or Foster, IMO). He strikes me as more of a Kendall Beckwith or maybe Raekwon McMillan type.

To some degree we're just a bit spoiled by DJ so I may be asking more of him than is truly fair. Not many LBs are natural in coverage and we just happen to have one of them. So trying to find another one like him is like trying to find another Tony Gonzalez who can catch AND block. We got lucky and managed to do exactly that with Kelce but that's not a common thing.
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