Collins is not that good after all - Page 2

08-19-2001, 11:55 AM

Why don't they go out there and sign Bishshop? He might not as good as people think but he is better than Chiefs two backup QBs right now.

**alanm** · 08-19-2001, 01:07 PM

No way!! You need to keep the ball in his hands. He's way too dangerous. He weighs around 205 now I suppose he could put on 10-15 lbs and be a RB somewhere. He's that good at running the ball.

**alanm** · 08-19-2001, 01:09 PM

And I agree his Mom's damn hot!! I would imagine she's going to be on the tube quite a bit this fall. :D

NaptownChief · 08-19-2001, 01:10 PM

He could easily turn out to be a stronger armed Gannon...When Gannon came out of Deleware he was projected virtually everywhere except QB...

NaptownChief · 08-19-2001, 01:12 PM

I would like to put her on something else besides the tube....:D

**alanm** · 08-19-2001, 01:13 PM

jl80, Great minds think alike LMAO :D

WilliamTheIrish · 08-19-2001, 03:28 PM

[B]Bishop was overrated in college and is still overhyped by K-state homers[/B]

In the famous words of the Virgin mary... Come again????

Overhyped??
Bishop lost 3 games in his entire college career. He led K-State to their first win over Neb. in 30 years (what facemask??). He beat every team in the Big 12. Was the total yardage leader for the Big 12 in 98. Bishop- and his team - hammered the more more hyped Donovan McNabb led Syracuse Orangemen in the Fiesta Bowl.
He was at the helm when K-State collapsed in the title game. Yes he was at the helm when we they lost a 3 point game to Drew Brees' Purdue Boilermakers in the Alamo Bowl. (talk about over hyped. Just be certain all you Drew Brees homers won't forget it when he gets put behind that San Diego offfensive line. I'll be certain of that.)
Now I personally don't care if we pick him up or not. But it's obvious that he was never going to play in NE. And hey if they want Tom Brady then more power to 'em. Apparently everyone now thinks every Michigan QB is the next Brian Greise when in all probability he's the next Elvis Grbac.

htismaqe · 08-19-2001, 04:03 PM

And somewhere in between lies the truth about Michael Bishop...

KCWolfman · 08-19-2001, 04:17 PM

William - Actually, I think that locally he is probably overhyped - as all local heros tend to be.

From what I remember, his last year at KState was with at least three games below a 40% completion rate, only 3 completions of 8 attempts in the NFL (one for an INT) and a less than 80.0 rating in the NFL Europe. He is basically Steve McNair revisited, he will never be stellar and will have to work very hard merely to be average.

If Jarious Jackson and Jonathan Quinn play better than you, you are not starter material in the NFL.

htismaqe · 08-19-2001, 04:23 PM

Good assessment Wolfman...

aturnis · 08-19-2001, 04:39 PM

I for one don't think he was overrated, and would not be against signing him on to take bristers spot, if he flops.......we still have Helming for a project.

LapDog · 08-19-2001, 07:13 PM

It seemed to me that Collins was doing okay for a while, but after he got creamed two times in a row, he immediately threw an interception. Maybe he's pretty good, but gets too distracted when he's worried about getting hit.

Also, he seemed to be getting pressured a lot. Was that because our OL wasn't protecting him or because he was holding the ball too long?

BTW, I wasn't too happy with the Offensive Line last night. They didn't seem to open any lanes for the runners and they only barely protected the quarterbacks.

philfree · 08-20-2001, 01:02 AM

The knock on Collins is that he's inconsistent. Seems to be holding true so far this preseason. Maybe with he and Bubby we could have Back Up QB by Committee. That's BUQBbc!

PhilFree :cool:

**Rausch** · 08-09-2003, 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=philfree]The knock on Collins is that he's inconsistent. Seems to be holding true so far this preseason. Maybe with he and Bubby we could have Back Up QB by Committee. That's BUQBbc!

PhilFree :cool:[/QUOTE]

:)

whoman69 · 08-09-2003, 10:57 PM

What's this, chiefs fans doubting their backup Qb more than their starter? Collins had no zip on his passes tonight and was not confident at all. Seems like old times in Buffalo.

08-19-2001, 11:55 AM
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08-19-2001, 01:07 PM	#16
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1716436	No way!! You need to keep the ball in his hands. He's way too dangerous. He weighs around 205 now I suppose he could put on 10-15 lbs and be a RB somewhere. He's that good at running the ball.
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08-19-2001, 01:09 PM	#17
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1716436	And I agree his Mom's damn hot!! I would imagine she's going to be on the tube quite a bit this fall. :D
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NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	He could easily turn out to be a stronger armed Gannon...When Gannon came out of Deleware he was projected virtually everywhere except QB... __________________ "We weren't worth a damn," the Kansas City Chiefs head coach said, shaking his head. "I'm not worth a damn. No one's worth a damn..." Former President of the Eric Downing Fan Club and Current President of the Kris"Secret Weapon"Wilson Fan Club
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08-19-2001, 01:13 PM	#20
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1716436	jl80, Great minds think alike LMAO :D
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08-19-2001, 03:28 PM	#21
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $5950607	I said I wouldn't do it... but ONE more time [B]Bishop was overrated in college and is still overhyped by K-state homers[/B] In the famous words of the Virgin mary... Come again???? Overhyped?? Bishop lost 3 games in his entire college career. He led K-State to their first win over Neb. in 30 years (what facemask??). He beat every team in the Big 12. Was the total yardage leader for the Big 12 in 98. Bishop- and his team - hammered the more more hyped Donovan McNabb led Syracuse Orangemen in the Fiesta Bowl. He was at the helm when K-State collapsed in the title game. Yes he was at the helm when we they lost a 3 point game to Drew Brees' Purdue Boilermakers in the Alamo Bowl. (talk about over hyped. Just be certain all you Drew Brees homers won't forget it when he gets put behind that San Diego offfensive line. I'll be certain of that.) Now I personally don't care if we pick him up or not. But it's obvious that he was never going to play in NE. And hey if they want Tom Brady then more power to 'em. Apparently everyone now thinks every Michigan QB is the next Brian Greise when in all probability he's the next Elvis Grbac.
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08-19-2001, 04:03 PM	#22
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	And somewhere in between lies the truth about Michael Bishop...
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08-19-2001, 04:17 PM	#23
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	William - Actually, I think that locally he is probably overhyped - as all local heros tend to be. From what I remember, his last year at KState was with at least three games below a 40% completion rate, only 3 completions of 8 attempts in the NFL (one for an INT) and a less than 80.0 rating in the NFL Europe. He is basically Steve McNair revisited, he will never be stellar and will have to work very hard merely to be average. If Jarious Jackson and Jonathan Quinn play better than you, you are not starter material in the NFL. __________________ How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! Samuel Adams
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08-19-2001, 04:23 PM	#24
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Good assessment Wolfman...
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08-19-2001, 04:39 PM	#25
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	I for one don't think he was overrated, and would not be against signing him on to take bristers spot, if he flops.......we still have Helming for a project.
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08-19-2001, 07:13 PM	#26
LapDog Interloper Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: KC Northland Casino cash: $10004900	It seemed to me that Collins was doing okay for a while, but after he got creamed two times in a row, he immediately threw an interception. Maybe he's pretty good, but gets too distracted when he's worried about getting hit. Also, he seemed to be getting pressured a lot. Was that because our OL wasn't protecting him or because he was holding the ball too long? BTW, I wasn't too happy with the Offensive Line last night. They didn't seem to open any lanes for the runners and they only barely protected the quarterbacks.
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08-20-2001, 01:02 AM	#27
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1526198	The knock on Collins is that he's inconsistent. Seems to be holding true so far this preseason. Maybe with he and Bubby we could have Back Up QB by Committee. That's BUQBbc! PhilFree :cool: __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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