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Old 12-30-2018, 07:24 PM  
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Is Patrick Mahomes the greatest football player of all time in college AND the NFL?
No other QB has ever thrown for 5,000 yards and/or 50 in the NCAA and the NFL.

Yards-wise, you have several dudes who have thrown for 4k in college and in the pros. The next closest dude is Big Ben who had 4,486 in college and 4,952 in the NFL.

After that you get

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Matt Ryan (4500/4900)
Phil Rivers (4500/4800)
Jared Goff (4700/4500)
Scott Mitchell (4300/4300)
Deshaun Watson (4600/4200)
Jameis Winston (4000/4100)
Derek Carr (4100/4000)
Touchdown wise, the next closest dude is Drew Brees. He threw 39 during his best college season and has two NFL seasons of 40+.

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Peyton Manning (36/55)
Dan Marino (37/48)
Andrew Luck (37/40)
Ben Roethlisberger (37/32)
Derek Carr (50/32)
There are some pedestrian names who have joined the 4k club, and but given the combination of yards AND touchdowns, and the fact that there are seven hall of famers here that will never do what Mahomes has done in his first season...

I'm pretty sure Mahomes is the greatest football player of all time.
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:25 PM   #2
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:26 PM   #3
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Reminded me of this bit of history revisited.

Football alone might be insufficient to put Mahomes in perspective.
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:26 PM   #4
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Greatest of all time? That's a bit of a stretch at this point. Brady has how many rings?
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:27 PM   #5
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Old 12-30-2018, 07:30 PM   #7
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I’m not good at the maths, but Mahomes has like 3/8 of Aikmans career TDS

Aikman- 165

Mahomes- 50
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I'm pretty sure Mahomes is the greatest football player of all time.

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Reminded me of this bit of history revisited.

Football alone might be insufficient to put Mahomes in perspective.
We're going to need an analysis of every major sport and the Hall of Famers who duplicated their NCAA-leading totals as pros.
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We're going to need an analysis of every major sport and the Hall of Famers who duplicated their NCAA-leading totals as pros.
LeBron didn't go to college. Does that make him the best of all?
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LeBron didn't go to college. Does that make him the best of all?
What were his HS numbers?

If he wasn't averaging at least 40/15/10 he doesn't enter into this equation.
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Greatest of all time? That's a bit of a stretch at this point. Brady has how many rings?
What did Brady do in college?

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If he wasn't averaging at least 40/15/10 he doesn't enter into this equation.
Prior to the start of his junior year, James appeared in SLAM Magazine and writer Ryan Jones lauded him as possibly "the best high school basketball player in America right now".[14] During the season, he appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated, becoming the first high school basketball underclassman to do so.[5]:104 With averages of 29 points, 8.3 rebounds, 5.7 assists, and 3.3 steals per game, he was again named Ohio Mr. Basketball and selected to the USA Today All-USA First Team,[10] and became the first junior to be named male basketball Gatorade National Player of the Year. [5]:117 St. Vincent-St. Mary finished the year with a 23–4 record, ending their season with a loss in the Division II championship game.[5]:114 Following the loss, James unsuccessfully petitioned for a change to the NBA's draft eligibility rules, which required prospective players to have at least a high school diploma, in an attempt to enter the 2002 NBA draft.[15] During this time, he used marijuana, which he said was to help cope with the stress that resulted from the constant media attention he was receiving.[16]

Throughout his senior year, James and the Fighting Irish traveled around the country to play a number of nationally ranked teams, including a game against Oak Hill Academy that was nationally televised on ESPN2.[5]:142 Time Warner Cable, looking to capitalize on James's popularity, offered St. Vincent-St. Mary's games to subscribers on a pay-per-view basis throughout the season.[5]:143 For the year, James averaged 31.6 points, 9.6 rebounds, 4.6 assists, and 3.4 steals per game,[10] was named Ohio Mr. Basketball and selected to the USA Today All-USA First Team for an unprecedented third consecutive year,[5]:178 and was named Gatorade National Player of the Year for the second consecutive year.[10] He participated in three year-end high school basketball all-star games—the EA Sports Roundball Classic, the Jordan Capital Classic, and the McDonald's All-American Game—losing his National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) eligibility and making it official that he would enter the 2003 NBA draft.[17]
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