Chiefs Andy Reid - Page 3

dlphg9 · 10-10-2018, 03:22 PM

So I'm curious as to what the general consensus is here at CP when it comes to Andy Reid's coaching ability. So I'm putting up a big long thick pole. On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being the worst and 10 being the best where do you put Coach Reid?

htismaqe · 10-10-2018, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

isnt Mahomes going to get the most credit?

Depending on how long they're together, I imagine it might be more like Bill and Brady or Walsh and Montana. They'll both be heroes.

**Easy 6** · 10-10-2018, 05:08 PM

I went 9, in spite of his well discussed idiosyncrasies all he has done here is win

He took over after 2-14 and a murder suicide, and instantly changed the culture

That kind of turnaround is rare

Winning a super bowl or six will vault him into a 10

Bump · 10-10-2018, 05:11 PM

QB whisperer, has drafted us some fantastic offensive players. Clock management bad, seems like a good leader. Took the worst team in the NFL into a playoff team. Has been to a Superbowl. Struggles with playing with a lead it seems.

He's been a good coach but there are flaws, I rated him a 7.

**jjchieffan** · 10-10-2018, 08:37 PM

I rated him at 8. But I'm thinking that may be a bit low. It's looking like the biggest thing holding him back was a quarterback that wouldn't take advantage of his play calling. But now that I see Mahomes doing what he's doing, I think that Reid is damn good. He flat out schooled a very good Jags defense last week.

I see that Black Helicopters gave him a 1, but didn't bother coming in to defend that rating. I guess that he knew that his rating was indefensible, so why bother.

carcosa · 10-10-2018, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I see that Black Helicopters gave him a 1, but didn't bother coming in to defend that rating. I guess that he knew that his rating was indefensible, so why bother.

Maybe he thought the question was "how many years old is the Earth"

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-10-2018, 09:00 PM

Thank God we no longer have to endure a pedestrian POS attempting to run about 25% of this total offense, and doing a shitty job of even THAT.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-10-2018, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

QB whisperer, has drafted us some fantastic offensive players. Clock management bad, seems like a good leader. Took the worst team in the NFL into a playoff team. Has been to a Superbowl. Struggles with playing with a lead it seems.

He's been a good coach but there are flaws, I rated him a 7.

I went with 7 based on the above combined with the need to be more aggressive( which I believe will come with more time and trust between Reid and Mahomes ), and a tendency to settle with fielding a less than balanced defense.
Remember, he's the head coach of a team, not just an offense.

dlphg9 · 10-10-2018, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I rated him at 8. But I'm thinking that may be a bit low. It's looking like the biggest thing holding him back was a quarterback that wouldn't take advantage of his play calling. But now that I see Mahomes doing what he's doing, I think that Reid is damn good. He flat out schooled a very good Jags defense last week.

I see that Black Helicopters gave him a 1, but didn't bother coming in to defend that rating. I guess that he knew that his rating was indefensible, so why bother.

That has to be a joke, but who I don't think is joking is that reerun Randallflagg. He gave him a 5, which is saying he's an average coach. Andy is no where close to average. Any coach that can do what Andy did with Alex Smith is at the very least a 7 and that seems too low. Hell if I could change my vote I'd give him a 10.

Sannyasi · 10-10-2018, 09:25 PM

I also gave him a 9 because to me the only thing he hasn't done is won a Super Bowl. His regular season record is great, and his history as an offensive innovator and game planner is unimpeachable. He's consistently 5 years ahead of the rest of the NFL; he used to get criticized for passing too much with the Eagles, but now the entire league is passing at that rate. He's made countless mediocre QB's look very good and the one great QB he's had (Mahomes) now looks like a future hall of famer. His assistants get poached every year and it never effects the offense, yet his assistants generally go on to have success which means to me that he has a great eye for coaching talent as well. He's always been an offensive innovator and never rested on his laurels, even as a guy who's been in the NFL for decades he's still one of the most innovative coaches in terms of bringing in concepts from college offenses.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-10-2018, 09:29 PM

He's probably as good of an offensive tactician as the league has had in the last 25+ years, especially in his ability to use the width of the field. His Achilles has always been game/clock management. He's obviously hands off on defense. Give him a group of skill position players like this and it's almost unfair.

chuxtrux · 10-10-2018, 09:35 PM

He's probably a top 3 coach in the NFL.

**Buehler445** · 10-10-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

In fairness, doesn't knowing all the opponent's offensive and defensive calls make him the smartest?

Well, yeah.

Hammock Parties · 10-11-2018, 05:08 AM

I gave him a 9.

He makes players better.

I mean, he took Alex ****ing Smith and turned him into the highest-rated passer in football.

He's the best coach this franchise will ever have. Yes, better than Stram.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-11-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I gave him a 9.

He makes players better.

I mean, he took Alex ****ing Smith and turned him into the highest-rated passer in football.

He's the best coach this franchise will ever have. Yes, better than Stram.

Not yet, homeslice.

You're talking about a coach that coached the first Super Bowl, won the 4th Super Bowl, and wrote the mother****ing book on NFL defense for the next decade to come and beyond.
Not to mention his offensive schemes were groundbreaking for the time.

Reid is a great coach but he's chosen his side of the ball and will never be the complete coach that Stram was.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-11-2018, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

This.

Andy is 1-7 in the last 8 playoff games.

Other than that he has flaws but is he has the record of an upper echelon coach. Other coaches wouldn’t be copying his plays if he wasn’t good at drawing up an offense. It’s just losing games when he gets up big and in the playoffs that is maddening and diminishes his stature.

But it looks like Mahomes was the missing ingredient so here’s hoping he’s the guy to take us to the promised land.

^this^

and please, don't say McNabb was an elite QB. Very good, but not elite.

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10-10-2018, 03:22 PM
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10-10-2018, 05:11 PM	#33
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jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $3342247	I rated him at 8. But I'm thinking that may be a bit low. It's looking like the biggest thing holding him back was a quarterback that wouldn't take advantage of his play calling. But now that I see Mahomes doing what he's doing, I think that Reid is damn good. He flat out schooled a very good Jags defense last week. I see that Black Helicopters gave him a 1, but didn't bother coming in to defend that rating. I guess that he knew that his rating was indefensible, so why bother.
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10-10-2018, 09:25 PM	#39
Sannyasi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $9963714	I also gave him a 9 because to me the only thing he hasn't done is won a Super Bowl. His regular season record is great, and his history as an offensive innovator and game planner is unimpeachable. He's consistently 5 years ahead of the rest of the NFL; he used to get criticized for passing too much with the Eagles, but now the entire league is passing at that rate. He's made countless mediocre QB's look very good and the one great QB he's had (Mahomes) now looks like a future hall of famer. His assistants get poached every year and it never effects the offense, yet his assistants generally go on to have success which means to me that he has a great eye for coaching talent as well. He's always been an offensive innovator and never rested on his laurels, even as a guy who's been in the NFL for decades he's still one of the most innovative coaches in terms of bringing in concepts from college offenses.
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10-10-2018, 09:29 PM	#40
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	He's probably as good of an offensive tactician as the league has had in the last 25+ years, especially in his ability to use the width of the field. His Achilles has always been game/clock management. He's obviously hands off on defense. Give him a group of skill position players like this and it's almost unfair. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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chuxtrux Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grbacs basement Casino cash: $10004990	He's probably a top 3 coach in the NFL.
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10-11-2018, 05:08 AM	#43
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4650478	I gave him a 9. He makes players better. I mean, he took Alex ****ing Smith and turned him into the highest-rated passer in football. He's the best coach this franchise will ever have. Yes, better than Stram.
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