Chiefs NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list - Page 4

Dayze · 03-10-2017, 08:44 AM

^ that

**Bowser** · 03-10-2017, 08:46 AM

I just can't see Dorsey trading up, especially in this draft for these QBs. If he were to trade up, it's going to be next year when the talent fills back out.

That's why I think more and more, IF the QB rumor with KC in this draft is true, that they're looking at Kizer at 27. I've heard not a peep about him post draft, even though he supposedly knocked it out of the park. If he's sitting there at 27, I wouldn't be surprised if they take him.

And if I'm wrong and Kizer is getting a ton of run, put me in my place.

Dayze · 03-10-2017, 08:50 AM

I thought I read and heard on NFL that Kizer's combine sucked.

admittedly, I know nothing about him, but I do remembe watching some post combine wrap up show and all the talking heads were making comments that weren't so flattering.

anyone else hear/read that?

BryanBusby · 03-10-2017, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

I thought I read and heard on NFL that Kizer's combine sucked.

admittedly, I know nothing about him, but I do remembe watching some post combine wrap up show and all the talking heads were making comments that weren't so flattering.

anyone else hear/read that?

He's a multi year project, but that upside is quite high. I wouldn't hesitate to spend a 2 on him, but nothing above that.

**The Franchise** · 03-10-2017, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

He's a multi year project, but that upside is quite high. I wouldn't hesitate to spend a 2 on him, but nothing above that.

I'd rather have the 5th year option for that very reason.

BryanBusby · 03-10-2017, 09:04 AM

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I'd rather have the 5th year option for that very reason.

Yeah he's just not worth a 1. I'd gamble on having to franchise tagging him if push came to shove.

**Bowser** · 03-10-2017, 08:51 AM

Where the **** is Pestilence when you need him? I'm sure he'd give a bj-quality review of Kizer right about now.

**The Franchise** · 03-10-2017, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Where the **** is Pestilence when you need him? I'm sure he'd give a bj-quality review of Kizer right about now.

He didn't have a great combine. No clue why.

Mother****erJones · 03-10-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Where the **** is Pestilence when you need him? I'm sure he'd give a bj-quality review of Kizer right about now.

Kizer is the best QB in this class. He's going to be good if he goes to the right team

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-10-2017, 08:53 AM

It makes all the sense in the world this year to go and get their QBOTF (Watson, Mahomes?) if they fall in love with someone and think he's 'the guy'. They have some draft ammunition, there's not a lot of needs on the roster, not much $$$ to play with, etc.

Alex for one more year (mainly because of the cap situation, but also partly to the veteran leadership presence he provides) and then cut him after 2017 when they can save a ton on the cap by releasing him. The rook can sit and learn the playbook/offense for a year and then have open competition come 2018 with Bray and the Rook. Best man wins. Either your QBOTF is ready to start 2018 or maybe you get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle with Bray.

Either way, win for the Chiefs. You're young at the QB position, with a lot of potential and very little money tied into it, giving you the ability to fill in other holes on the team.

jd1020 · 03-10-2017, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

It makes all the sense in the world this year to go and get their QBOTF (Watson, Mahomes?)

Can you give me a year in the last 30 where it didn't make all the sense in the world for the Chiefs to go after their QBOTF in the draft?

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-10-2017, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Can you give me a year in the last 30 where it didn't make all the sense in the world for the Chiefs to go after their QBOTF in the draft?

2013? The year we had the #1 pick in the draft . . . .

Which QB should we have drafted then?

I mean, we ended up actually signing one of the best QB prospects in the draft (Bray) as a UDFA.

jd1020 · 03-10-2017, 09:11 AM

Oh yes. Tyler Bray was one of the best prospects that year as he went undrafted and the only reason he's still on a NFL roster is because of IR. Is this the year Bray makes it past the backup of the backup? Maybe he makes the active roster!

And don't give me this shit about Bray getting passed on because of off field shit when guys like Manziel get drafted in the first round.

TomBarndtsTwin · 03-10-2017, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Oh yes. Tyler Bray was one of the best prospects that year as he went undrafted and the only reason he's still on a NFL roster is because of IR. Is this the year Bray makes it past the backup of the backup? Maybe he makes the active roster!

1) He will most likely be the #2 behind Alex this year.

2) Go back to 2013 and check any QB prospect list going into the draft. Bray was in the Top 10 on all of them. No one is saying he was an 'elite' prospect.

3) Again, who would you have rather the Chiefs drafted that year?

4) Why are you so angry . . . . . .

King_Chief_Fan · 03-10-2017, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

2013? The year we had the #1 pick in the draft . . . .

Which QB should we have drafted then?

I mean, we ended up actually signing one of the best QB prospects in the draft (Bray) as a UDFA.

Bray?

....how has that worked out

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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $4989358	I thought I read and heard on NFL that Kizer's combine sucked. admittedly, I know nothing about him, but I do remembe watching some post combine wrap up show and all the talking heads were making comments that weren't so flattering. anyone else hear/read that? __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $4979883	It makes all the sense in the world this year to go and get their QBOTF (Watson, Mahomes?) if they fall in love with someone and think he's 'the guy'. They have some draft ammunition, there's not a lot of needs on the roster, not much $$$ to play with, etc. Alex for one more year (mainly because of the cap situation, but also partly to the veteran leadership presence he provides) and then cut him after 2017 when they can save a ton on the cap by releasing him. The rook can sit and learn the playbook/offense for a year and then have open competition come 2018 with Bray and the Rook. Best man wins. Either your QBOTF is ready to start 2018 or maybe you get lucky and catch lightning in a bottle with Bray. Either way, win for the Chiefs. You're young at the QB position, with a lot of potential and very little money tied into it, giving you the ability to fill in other holes on the team.
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7712645	Oh yes. Tyler Bray was one of the best prospects that year as he went undrafted and the only reason he's still on a NFL roster is because of IR. Is this the year Bray makes it past the backup of the backup? Maybe he makes the active roster! And don't give me this shit about Bray getting passed on because of off field shit when guys like Manziel get drafted in the first round.
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03-10-2017, 08:46 AM	#2
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3261616	I just can't see Dorsey trading up, especially in this draft for these QBs. If he were to trade up, it's going to be next year when the talent fills back out. That's why I think more and more, IF the QB rumor with KC in this draft is true, that they're looking at Kizer at 27. I've heard not a peep about him post draft, even though he supposedly knocked it out of the park. If he's sitting there at 27, I wouldn't be surprised if they take him. And if I'm wrong and Kizer is getting a ton of run, put me in my place.
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