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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:45 PM   #91
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:49 PM   #94
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I just ran through the following:

1) Restructure Chris Jones (saves $11M on 21 cap hit)
2) Extend Mathieu (added 3 years, turned it into a 4/$60M deal, which is roughly market value, structured it so I save $11M on 2021 cap)
3) Extend Eric Fisher for one year. I trimmed his 2021 base to $2m, gave him a $4m signing bonus to, saved $8M on 21)
4) Cut Mitchel Schwartz (simulates a retirement on his part, saves $6M against 21 cap)

That puts the Chiefs at $166M in cap liabilities. If the cap gets chopped to $175M they still can sign rookies without doing anything painful. If it ends up at $185M they still have enough room to make a few moves in FA. If it stays flat at $195M they're in awesome shape.
Can't remember where I read this past week, but it sounds like it will be between $180-181M. Veach said they have models for $175-$185M and we'll be in good shape, so it sounds like our guys are confident.
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Old 02-09-2021, 01:50 PM   #95
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The center market might be a little pricey this year. They're talking about Reiter getting in excess of $10M per.
Yeah, I've seen that, but there are also several guys available.

I could see a Mitch Morse reunion being cheaper than $10M/year.

Or, just commit to taking a C in the draft. There are some good ones in there, including my draft crush Quinn Meinerz.
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Can't remember where I read this past week, but it sounds like it will be between $180-181M. Veach said they have models for $175-$185M and we'll be in good shape, so it sounds like our guys are confident.
There's been a bunch of speculation. I just don't believe they're going to hit the 21 cap as hard as some are predicting.

Makes a lot more sense to keep it flat in 21 and borrow against 22 and 23 than to rip 14-15 teams all at the same time.

Dropping it $15M in 21 is going to wreak havoc on the FA market... not so much for the top guys, but for all the guys in between it will be a disaster.
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Yeah, I've seen that, but there are also several guys available.

I could see a Mitch Morse reunion being cheaper than $10M/year.

Or, just commit to taking a C in the draft. There are some good ones in there, including my draft crush Quinn Meinerz.
No to Morse. We don’t need more injury prone guys on this team.
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Yeah, I've seen that, but there are also several guys available.

I could see a Mitch Morse reunion being cheaper than $10M/year.

Or, just commit to taking a C in the draft. There are some good ones in there, including my draft crush Quinn Meinerz.
I don't see it.

They let Morse go because they didn't want to pay him. I can't see him coming back for cheap, not to mention the injuries.
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There's been a bunch of speculation. I just don't believe they're going to hit the 21 cap as hard as some are predicting.

Makes a lot more sense to keep it flat in 21 and borrow against 22 and 23 than to rip 14-15 teams all at the same time.

Dropping it $15M in 21 is going to wreak havoc on the FA market... not so much for the top guys, but for all the guys in between it will be a disaster.
Yeah, and then the NFLPA will get involved, which the NFL really doesn't want to deal with I'm sure.
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Convert some of this base salary to a signing bonus.

He’s 32 and has a cheap cap hit next year at $7.5 million. Up his cap hits in 2022 and 2023 and then extend him if you want when he’s 34-35.
Isn't he still 31? Will turn 32 in like the middle of next season? Not sure...
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Yeah, and then the NFLPA will get involved, which the NFL really doesn't want to deal with I'm sure.
I just can’t see them wanting it to be that way. They’ll figure something out to atleast keep it flat
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I wish this shit would stop. Green is done.
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These owners can shut the **** up. Keep the cap the same.

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I wish this shit would stop. Green is done.
He was over playing in the shit hole known as Cincinnati. He might be done but we aren't getting Allen Robinson at some massive discount-despite what a few posters think.

FTR ESPN's Bill Barnwell and the local Bengal websites see it happening:

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2021/2/6...fl-free-agency
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