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Old 09-19-2022, 07:22 AM  
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Would you downvote this?

One team recieves Eckler for Mike Carter and Antonio Giblson. The team getting Eckler is a long time fantasy player. The other is pretty green.

Team A
qb cousins
rb Antonio Gibson
rb Javaonte Williams
wr DJ Moore
wr C. Sutton
te M. Andrews
flx D. cook
bn M. Carter
bn R. Stevenson
bn J. Warren
bn J. Wilson
bn E. moore
bn M. Thomas


Team B.
qb Rodgers
rb Conner
rb Eckeler
wr Theilen
wr A. cooper
te Freiermuth
flx D. Carter
bn J. Winston
bn D. montgomery
bn D. Duvernay
bn T. Lockett
bn S. sheppart
bn O. Howard

Currently Its rb 12 and 19 for rb 29 on the year. Obviously that isnt going to hold up after this weeks stats are entered. I'm being accused of collusion as the commish. Our league votes on any trade that anyone in the league requests a vote on.
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Old 09-19-2022, 08:39 AM   #2
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That's a tough one.

I know many prescribe to the don't veto / let it happen with trades unless it's obvious collusion. I don't think this is. I think Carter for Ekeler straight up would be, but in this case, the green horn thinks he's getting 2 starting RBs for 1 whose under performed (in his mind). It's a bad read and a bad trade, but I think it's honest.

With that said, I also prescribe to the notion that fair trades have one player getting no more than 30% extra value on a trade value chart. There are many out there, but this is my favorite (he posts a new updated thread each Wednesday): https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfoot...rts_week_2_te/

This trade breaks my personal rule that I think everyone should follow. Since it's not obvious collusion, I would abstain from voting but share your trade chart of preference with the player (or on the team message board) and encourage more careful consideration in the future.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:09 AM   #3
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That's a tough one.

I know many prescribe to the don't veto / let it happen with trades unless it's obvious collusion. I don't think this is. I think Carter for Ekeler straight up would be, but in this case, the green horn thinks he's getting 2 starting RBs for 1 whose under performed (in his mind). It's a bad read and a bad trade, but I think it's honest.

With that said, I also prescribe to the notion that fair trades have one player getting no more than 30% extra value on a trade value chart. There are many out there, but this is my favorite (he posts a new updated thread each Wednesday): https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfoot...rts_week_2_te/

This trade breaks my personal rule that I think everyone should follow. Since it's not obvious collusion, I would abstain from voting but share your trade chart of preference with the player (or on the team message board) and encourage more careful consideration in the future.
It's currently in a 4 up 4 down tie. I have not voted and one guy who works our weekend shift has not voted. Its a 12 man league and requires at least 5 votes to stop it (usually we dont get full participation, and the two involved parties dont get a vote)
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Old 09-19-2022, 02:02 PM   #4
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I would not veto the trade as commish unless there was evidence of bullying through the trade. Who proposed the trade, how was it countered (if it was) and what kind of communication was involved would be things I would potentially look into since it is this contentious
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Old 09-20-2022, 06:04 PM   #5
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In my leagues we dont do league votes. Its a dumb premise. If you have someone in your league that is so ignorant that he gives his players away, boot him.

Trade voting leagues are trash.
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Old 09-21-2022, 12:38 PM   #6
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In my leagues we dont do league votes. Its a dumb premise. If you have someone in your league that is so ignorant that he gives his players away, boot him.

Trade voting leagues are trash.
You dont have people who are friends in your league? who could collude? I was in a league once with a husband and wife. At week 10 they started trading all the good players to the wifes team.

The current league i was asking for is a work league. And like most work places there are people who would collude to have a preferred co worker beat the foreman's pet ect. Many of these guys are green or just a year or two in. One trade accepted was DK metcalf for the cowboys wr wilson on accident and chubb for daryl hederson after henderson had a really good week. Wolves will forever hunt sheep and the vote is a handy dandy sheep dog to keep the balance of power. 6 of the 10 teams not involved directly have to vote it down.
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Old 09-21-2022, 12:39 PM   #7
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It passed by the way.

I asked the wisdom of CP because it seemed fair but two people in the league felt it was last years champ taking advantage of a second year guy, who works sunday nights and doesnt see a lot of football and may be missing the Eckeler name value.
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Old 09-22-2022, 03:13 PM   #8
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I was in a league once with a husband and wife.
This is where you went wrong sir.
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