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Old 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM  
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:57 AM   #76
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:57 AM   #77
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #78
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I don’t get this at all.

Switching to a 4-3 does next to nothing to limit the DEs. All it will do is take pass coverage out of the equation for guys like Speaks, Houston, Kpass... guys who don’t belong in coverage.
the only thing it does is make Ford no longer viable. Which is fine, really, as one dimensional as he is. Tag and try to trade and get something from him. Bowles might want him in Tampa?
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #79
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The most positive thing I can say about this is that Spags will figure out how to use Kpass and Speaks
Hitchens too man. He was good in a 4-3. O’Daniel fits nicely as a 4-3 backer as well.
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #80
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Guy's a JAG.

There might be a marginal upgrade here but this is organizational cowardice; known mediocrity over taking a chance on a guy who actually be a force multplier of some sort.

Even money says our defense is again in the bottom 1/3 of the league in most meaningful categories next year. If we're lucky we'll win the next shootout in January but Spags won't do anything to help us avoid it. There's just very little 'there' there. He's sizzle over steak and has been since he was exposed with the Rams. He has 1 halfway decent defense over the last 10 seasons to his credit and a whole bunch of pretty shitty ones.
Whats the other options?

Rex Ryan?

I don't know how much force multiplier a defensive Coordinator can be. It's such a talent determined position, I dunno.
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #81
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You seem like a miserable individual.

We should have stayed with Sutton.
Well I mean facts are facts,

the only times this guy fielded any defense worth talking about he had amazing pass rushing and decent to great secondaries.

9 Years as a DC/HC and only 3 has fielded a top10 unit
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #82
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We do not know how Houston will play at DE that is a question mark. We do know Ford cannot play DE in a 4-3 so he is gone.

So you are taking 2 of our 3 best pass rushers and putting question marks next to them.
WTF do you mean we don’t know how Houston will do? He’s a good run defender and a solid pass rusher. He played in a 4-3 at Georgia. He’ll be fine.
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:58 AM   #83
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He's a heavy blitzer, according to everything I read, so I don't know what you mean by that.
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:59 AM   #84
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:59 AM   #85
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It is not surprising though for him to pick Spags. Reid wants a DC he doesn't have to babysit and he gives them total control pretty much.
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I agree it is easier, but make no mistake about it. It will be a defensive rebuild, would have preferred any 3-4 coach to a rebuild.
Personally, I don't understand how the defense will need rebuilt. All of our 3-4 DE's/OLB's will transition fine, because frankly, they suck in coverage. So for Ford, Houston, and the others, their job becomes easier. DT's not much of a change. Our LB's are better suited for 4-3 (Hitch thrived at Dallas) Ragland is from Bama and knows the 4-3, not much will change in the back end. I have no clue all the disparaging comments about rough this will be, going from a 4-3 to a 3-4 is brutal, that would be much more concerning.
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Well I mean facts are facts,

the only times this guy fielded any defense worth talking about he had amazing pass rushing and decent to great secondaries.

9 Years as a DC/HC and only 3 has fielded a top10 unit
You don’t take into consideration the players talent?

He’s definitely an upgrade. Can’t really complain about that.
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I've watched the Cowboys, Bills, and Texans do it....

It is a MAJOR TRANSITION
We need an overhaul on defensive personnel regardless. In the next two drafts we'll go heavy D in the top 4 rounds both years.

We already have Speaks and Kpass that are nearly worthless in the 3-4. Houston can make the transition. Dee Ford, probably not so much.

Chris Jones will be flexible enough to play DE or DT, depending on situation.

Need some better DB's (like we already knew).

Reggie and Hitchens are probably better suited for 4-3 also. Hitchens has looked horrible since switching.

The personnel may be closer than you think. And that may have been part of our problem recently.
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