Better Call Saul

[rico]

As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!

[BWillie]

Thought that was the weakest ep of the season. Thought they could "get" Chuck in a more clever fashion. Still interesting to see where it goes from here

[SBInfinity]

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro

He didn't/couldn't contest any of the open-and-shut aspects of the case...that he committed the crimes, and that that was him on the tape. Too many witnesses and corroborating evidence.

His only option was to paint his actions as noble and necessary, and the only way to do that was to pull out all the stops in making the panel see Chuck as a total mental case.

yeah I get it.
But you can't acknowledge my point? The part likely to get him disbarred have to do with honesty. And he did argue that his admission to Chuck on the tape was itself a lie, so he is disputing if he did in fact alter the document.
Scheming to hire someone to secretly plant something on Chuck doesn't really help refute the characterization of Jimmy as someone who would pull such tricks.

I just think the writers could have done better.

[B_Ambuehl]

I thought it was epic. Loved it. Why bring Chucks wife in though? Not really sure what that had to do with anything other than maybe increasing the intensity of Chucks breakdown? It will be interesting to see what happens to him now.

[Gonzo]

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

I thought it was epic. Loved it. Why bring Chucks wife in though? Not really sure what that had to do with anything other than maybe increasing the intensity of Chucks breakdown? It will be interesting to see what happens to him now.

That's exactly why she's there. It did rattle Chuck quite a bit.

IMO this was one of the best episodes I've seen. Very tense and there was some great acting too. Who knew Lenny had it in him. Lol

[Baby Lee]

The biggest flaw in the whole thing wasn't even the byzantine machinations, examination narratives, or legal maneuvers.

A battery alone is not an EMF hazard.

If it were, it would be useless.

A battery alone, STORES EMF potential. Until either electrons or magnets initiate MOTION [usually initiated by placing a MACHINE in series between the anode and diode of the battery], a quality battery is as inert as a rock.

I guess the out is if all involved were so poorly versed in E/M that the gambit worked anyway to elicit Chuck's outburst.

[kjwood75nro]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The biggest flaw in the whole thing wasn't even the byzantine machinations, examination narratives, or legal maneuvers.

A battery alone is not an EMF hazard.

If it were, it would be useless.

A battery alone, STORES EMF potential. Until either electrons or magnets initiate MOTION [usually initiated by placing a MACHINE in series between the anode and diode of the battery], a quality battery is as inert as a rock.

I guess the out is if all involved were so poorly versed in E/M that the gambit worked anyway to elicit Chuck's outburst.

True, though according to Chuck's own rules regarding his "condition," he could perceive a battery in close proximity to him.

His inability to perceive it, coupled with his immediate adverse reaction when he discovers it, incriminates him both ways.

Maybe that wasn't the writers' intentions, but who knows with these guys. They did end the episode mid-hearing. Maybe there's more.

[Zebedee DuBois]

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro

True, though according to Chuck's own rules regarding his "condition," he could perceive a battery in close proximity to him.

His inability to perceive it, coupled with his immediate adverse reaction when he discovers it, incriminates him both ways.

Maybe that wasn't the writers' intentions, but who knows with these guys. They did end the episode mid-hearing. Maybe there's more.

I agree with your take that the uninstalled battery should not current source, but they have established that Chuck did not like batteries - inability to change batteries in the tape recorder (although that was a ruse) and removing the battery operated clock in the court room.

[Zebedee DuBois]

I liked the last shot of the scene - Chuck sitting alone, frazzled, while the camera pulls back and up to the EXIT sign.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

I liked the last shot of the scene - Chuck sitting alone, frazzled, while the camera pulls back and up to the EXIT sign.

Buuuuuuzzzzzzzz



Chuck is going to "Exit" soon?

[KC_Connection]

Chuck is a despicable person who has been more than asking for that for this entire series, but wow, that was tough to watch. Jimmy finally using Chuck's condition to hurt him after all these years is also a step he might not be able to come back from.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by SBInfinity

Jimmy is trying not to get disbarred. I'm not sure that planning a trick to have someone secretly plant something on Chuck is great way to impress the bar committee. yes it made Chuck go on a rant and look unstable. but it doesn't exactly make Jimmy look honest and trustworthy.
Clever scheme, but kind of a stretch for the writers I think.

I thought he planted a phone and his secretary was stepping outside to call him. Would have been more discreet but still effective

Loved chuck getting his payback. Gotta think the case is thrown out and Chuck gets let go from the firm.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

I thought he planted a phone and his secretary was stepping outside to call him. Would have been more discreet but still effective

Loved chuck getting his payback. Gotta think the case is thrown out and Chuck gets let go from the firm.

Oh yeah, Hamlin will see Chuck as a liability, and will boot Chuck the first chance he gets.

[MahiMike]

This was the best court drama since Alice dropped a phone book next to the guy with Whiplash on the Brady bunch!

[NewChief]

This show... I'm on FIFi where Jimmy's brother miraculously goes in and swings the bank client away from Kim and back to his firm

I really hate his character. His stupid bullshit psychosomatic neorosis that he only overcomes when he's motivated by trying to screw Jimmy. Yes, Jimmy is a shyster and awful person, but his brother is a big reason for that. He's despicable.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by NewChief

This show... I'm on FIFi where Jimmy's brother miraculously goes in and swings the bank client away from Kim and back to his firm

I really hate his character. His stupid bullshit psychosomatic neorosis that he only overcomes when he's motivated by trying to screw Jimmy. Yes, Jimmy is a shyster and awful person, but his brother is a big reason for that. He's despicable.

Catch up!! Don't spoil it in the mean time. Just total media blackout until . . .

It's a great ride, and you don't have to wait week to week!!