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Ten Things About Tonight's Game Week 6: NE 43 KC 40

Ten Things About Tonight’s Game Week 6: NE 43 KC 40

10. Looks like the 1972 Dolphins can concentrate on putting the voodoo hex on the Rams now. All of us agree that 5-1 is a great start. I’m very happy about many things and hopping mad about other things.

So let’s talk about good, bad and ugly:

9. The Good: After being down 24-9 at halftime, the team could have mailed it in. KC scores 31 points in the second half and loses. Where last week’s win over the Jags was credited to the defense for forcing four Bortles picks and a fumble, this week the defense was the goat. Offense and Special Teams showed tremendous heart to claw back into the lead in the fourth quarter. Hunt had 185 all purpose yards and a TD. Hill had 142 yards and three TDs…and could have had four if Mahomes would have hit him on our second drive. Kelce and Watkins were somewhat quiet, but did have catches. Mahomes set a Chiefs record for throwing for 300 yards in his last five games. Last person to do that in the NFL was Aaron Rodgers.

8. Special Teams were all good. Toub gets a 96 yard kickoff return. Buttkicker is perfect on all field goal and PAT attempts. On defense, Lucas played best of all the D-Backs. He had four tackles and six assists. Zombo played OK filling in for Houston. He didn’t embarrass himself. Devey did an OK job filling in for Morse who was concussed on a borderline dirty hit by Hightower. KC had 446 yards of total offense, which will win a game for you 9 out of 10 times.

7. The Bad: Jesus, where to I begin with this defense? Sorry, but I despise Grandpa Bob Sutton. Defense gives up 43 points. That’s gutter awful. Defense gives up an even 500 yards of offense to New England. They gave up a 100 yard rusher - They made Michel look like the second coming of Curtis Martin. Brady only had one TD pass, but he’s the one who ran for a TD this week, not Mahomes. And on his TD, Speaks had a major fail not to pull his ass down. That pretty much negated the one good play he had earlier to force a Brady fumble. Speaks looks doughey and slow. He either needs to bulk up and become a DT, or get his ass in better condition like Dee Ford did, and get better core strength. Dee Ford did absolutely NOTHING tonight against New England’s second string tackle. Chris Jones disappeared in the second half. For the most part, the inside pass rush was pathetic. On the fumble they forced on Brady he had over five seconds to throw the ball. You simply can’t give him that much time. He will beat you, yes he will beat you. Hey Bob, he beat you.

6. Somebody asked me yesterday what I thought would happen in tonight's game. I said “Pats will run for five or six yards on first down. Our linebackers will look terrible in pass coverage on backs out of the backfield, and if things get tight for Tommy, the refs will bail him out with DPI calls." All three of those things happened to make me look like frickin’ Nostradamus. Hey Veach, WTF??? I though our draft and free agency was all about STOPPING THE RUN? Pats had 173 yards rushing. That’s flatly pathetic. Hitchens and Ragland are both awful in pass coverage on backs. They’re always getting beat on little swing passes. Fuller is showing he’s not a true starting corner. He’s average to less than average at corner. Nelson and Scandrick were both terrible. Both had DPIs. Pats were 7 for 13 on third down. That’s on Grandpa Bob. And the final kill shot to Gronk, Gramps rushes three guys and puts a guy they brought in off the street a couple days ago (Shaw) to cover Gronk one on one, when everybody in the damn stadium knew Gronk was the main target. How can you allow that kind of a coverage scheme at a critical point in the game like that? Should be grounds for dismissal on that play alone.

5. The Ugly: I can see why Ron Parker was available after Atlanta cut him. Gronk trucked him. You can’t tackle a guy like that high. You have to cut his knees out from under him. Kelce lept a guy. Gronk stiff armed Parker and ran for another 10 yards. Gronk was by far the better of the two TE’s in this game.

4. Pats were penalized for zero yards. Let me say that again. Pats…no DPI, no holding. Only thing they got called for was an illegal shift, and it was declined by KC. They had one OPI called, but it was offset by a Bullshit penalty on Fuller for defensive holding. There was one punt in the game. So this was not as ugly as the “No Punt Game” in the playoffs back in the day against the Colts and Five Head, but I kept thinking in the fourth quarter the last team with the ball would win. Yep. That's exactly what happened. I could smell it coming.

3. Hightower is a dirty player. His hit on Morse was unnecessary and away from the play. I hope the O-Line remembers that hit and can pay his ass back if we meet these guys in the playoffs down the road. He should be on the bounty list. I guess the last part of the "ugly" was we had to play this game without our two highest paid defensive players, Houston and Berry. They both played in the New England game last year that we won. This year, we get nothing from either of them. Enjoy cashing those game checks this week fellas.

2. Ultimately the difference in the game was Mahomes slow start. He missed two guys for TDs early -Hunt and Hill-, and his second pick right before the half was really the game difference. If we get seven or three on that possession, we may have won this game. Not blaming this loss on Mahomes, he got the team the lead back in the fourth quarter. But if he comes out a little sharper, we may have won this game by 14 points.

1. So, live and learn. I think Mahomes and Hill both shined in front of a National TV audience, and losing to the Pats -when you have to beat Brady and the Zebras- is a tall order. He put the fear of Jesus in them, and it’ll make it so much sweeter when we beat them in a game that counts -the AFC Playoffs. But please God, can we put Sutton into John Knox Village where he belongs? Just give him a gold watch and a big case of pudding and get him the HELL out of Arrowhead? I won’t be able to handle another 20 point playoff collapse this year. We must, MUST draft or find actual defensive help next year. A couple linebackers who can cover backs and slants would be a start; a safety that can cover and come up in run support would be like, oh, having Eric Berry, and get a corner who can figure out how to turn his head in pass coverage. At least the Bengals got demoralized by AB and Rapistburger, and our guys will be pissed off now that they lost a game. I expect they may have more urgency and fire this week in taking it out on the Bengals. Like Lou Brown said in Major League when Wild Thing gave up the Grand Salami, “Let’s see how the kid reacts.”

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Old 10-15-2018, 07:32 AM   #61
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lol pats are gonna crush chicago. Patriots have 1 more loss coming in miami
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:35 AM   #62
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To be fair to Kelce about the Gronk being better statement. Gronk did get to go against our shit defense while Kelce faced a veteran lead D with decent backers and safeties. Gronk only had 3 catches for 97 yards and 42 of that came when broke dick Ron Parker refused to tackle like a man. Kelce had 5 for 61.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:47 AM   #63
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And the final kill shot to Gronk, Gramps rushes three guys and puts a guy they brought in off the street a couple days ago (Shaw) to cover Gronk one on one, when everybody in the damn stadium knew Gronk was the main target. How can you allow that kind of a coverage scheme at a critical point in the game like that? Should be grounds for dismissal on that play alone.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:56 AM   #64
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Good analysis as usual George.
I'll start with the obvious, neither Hitchens or Ragland can cover a back and Smith isn't a whole lot better. To top it off, both Hitchens and Ragland either got caught up in traffic or got beat all night long. I think it's time for some Niemann and O'D. Ford was a zero without Houston. I'm not inclined to give him a bunch of cash only to have his stuff beat by a 2nd string tackle.
I'm not going to place all the blame on Parker. He had Gronk's number most of the first half. But we can't continue to have John JAG back there with him and expect a different outcome. Dirty Dan looks pretty good to me right about now.
We all knew the kid would make mistakes, but that pick in the endzone was a killer. Couple that with at least 2 sure TD misses (Hunt and Hill) and that's the game, Brady magic be damned. To his credit, he put the team on his back in the 2nd half and turned FGs into TDs. It just wasn't enough.
Bottom line is we can't continue to give up an average of almost 29 points per game and expect to go deep into the playoffs. It seems to me we've been there before. Whether we stay with the 3-4 or change to a 4-3 or even something else isn't the total answer. Bob Sutton needs to go, period.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:01 AM   #65
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Well done, Mr. gblowfish.

Agree with most. See a couple of things differently. But, diverse viewpoints makes the world more interesting.

I realized last night that "no punt" games are going to become more and more common if the NFL continues down this "game theory" path. If you have a great offense and/or a HOF QB with a bunch of refs propping up his legend with some good ol' home cooking, who needs a stinkin' punt?

I was disappointed in the way Mahomes came out. Throwing highballs again for 2 quarters or so. He needs to get that under control. Maybe Wally needs to piss him off real good before kickoff. When Mahomes gets pissed, he seems to play much better.

Anyway, good 10 things.

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Old 10-15-2018, 08:02 AM   #66
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:13 AM   #67
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The UGLY was simply. We had the game but, again, it all comes down to clock management. This is the same thing that happened in the play off loss a couple of years ago. We had the ball with roughly 3 minutes and change left and what do we do? Score a touchdown in 12 seconds and give the ball back to Brady with 3 minutes and w/ 3 time outs left. That is a recipe for inevitable victory.

This says it all...

Brady wanted quick Chiefs score to get ball back

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-get-ball-back
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I was shocked that my anger at the loss was not so much at the Patriots and their slimy team but their scumbag fans, including the 20 or so I had to sit with at the bar last night here in Scottsdale. They make the loss like pouring gas on a small fire, they are the WORST right after the Faiders douchebag felons and gangbangers.
Did'ja catch what the fans did to Hill after his long TD catch that tied the game? Right as the cameras broke away someone threw a beer in his face. Real class act, those fans.
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lol pats are gonna crush chicago. Patriots have 1 more loss coming in miami
I bet not. All the Pats have done is hold serve at home this season. They have yet to prove they can win on the road.
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Did'ja catch what the fans did to Hill after his long TD catch that tied the game? Right as the cameras broke away someone threw a beer in his face. Real class act, those fans.
Was it a Sam Adams? Man, you gotta be a numb nuts to throw a $12 beer!
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Was it a Sam Adams? Man, you gotta be a numb nuts to throw a $12 beer!
Bud light so it was no loss.
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Nobody hated Wilson! I never read anything but positive about him.

Every QB will throw picks now and then, even Brady. Pat's first two drives were not perfect, but hardly terrible. We have just come to expect he hits EVERY pass...….and that doesn't happen to every QB either.

Mahomes still played with poise and led the team in the 2nd half. And remember, this is only his 2nd year in the league and 1st with any playing time. I think we all have great expectations every play with him at QB. How many QB's can you say that about?

How come nobody is saying the Pat's defense sucks......hell they gave up 40 points! I know our D sucks but they can only get better.....I hope!!!!
It's just really noticeable that Patrick's accuracy was off early in the game. He was missing screens, throwing behind guys, overthrowing guys. The pick at the end of the half is what really hurt.

It happens to the best of them. I'm just glad whatever it was got settled. He was money in the 2nd half.
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What's with the hate on Houston and Berry for being injured? I must have missed something along the way. Yes, they are highly paid and yes each of them was on the sideline for the game.

What do you want them to do? Are we rooting for Berry to come back and blow his Achilles again because that is what it looks like? Do we want Houston to play with a bad hammy so that he can tear it and be out an entire year? I guess that would let us bitch about their pay/playing time even more. It isn't my money so idgaf if they are being paid to stand there or not.

Chiefs are 5-1 and nearly beat NE at home with a bunch of backups on an already bad defense. That is something to happy about this season. If you want to aim your misdirected anger away from injured players and toward Andy and Hunt that would make sense. Bitch about Sutton, not the players. If you have season tickets bitch to somebody at Arrowhead about Sutton. Maybe if enough people complain Hunt will realize his bottom line might take a dent.
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What's with the hate on Houston and Berry for being injured? I must have missed something along the way. Yes, they are highly paid and yes each of them was on the sideline for the game.

What do you want them to do? Are we rooting for Berry to come back and blow his Achilles again because that is what it looks like? Do we want Houston to play with a bad hammy so that he can tear it and be out an entire year? I guess that would let us bitch about their pay/playing time even more. It isn't my money so idgaf if they are being paid to stand there or not.

Chiefs are 5-1 and nearly beat NE at home with a bunch of backups on an already bad defense. That is something to happy about this season. If you want to aim your misdirected anger away from injured players and toward Andy and Hunt that would make sense. Bitch about Sutton, not the players. If you have season tickets bitch to somebody at Arrowhead about Sutton. Maybe if enough people complain Hunt will realize his bottom line might take a dent.

I get your point. But the point he's making is that 30+ Million $ is not there when the Chiefs need it. With all the controversy over both contracts, especially Berry's, it's well worth mentioning.
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The UGLY was simply. We had the game but, again, it all comes down to clock management. This is the same thing that happened in the play off loss a couple of years ago. We had the ball with roughly 3 minutes and change left and what do we do? Score a touchdown in 12 seconds and give the ball back to Brady with 3 minutes and w/ 3 time outs left. That is a recipe for inevitable victory.

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Brady wanted quick Chiefs score to get ball back

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-get-ball-back
Bullshit. You take the points that are there. Always. Always and in all ways.

They ran some running plays and they were on it. If you call a pass play and 6 is there you take the 6.
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