Who would you rather have on the roster - Toney or Moore?

[TLO]

For this exercise, you need to pick one or the other. Cutting them both is not an option.

Poll

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Why?

After Toney's bizarre tweet last year, I expected him to do something crazy, like "Antonio Brown crazy". Don't need a bad locker room distraction.

Moore seems like a good dude who just belongs in the CFL.

Our floor is defined and perfectly acceptable given the offseason additions.

Moore’s ceiling is nowhere. Toney has shown he can really flash and with the space he’ll have to work with given Brown/Worthy, there’s plenty of reason to think he can feast underneath without feeling the pressure of being a top option.

If Toney flames out, you cut him. Game over. Much rather give him that shot than go with Moore who isn’t going anywhere.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

You could read Pat’s lips after Toney ****ed up against the Eagles.

“Can’t trust that guy”

That’s a big deal.

Patrick's meltdown on the sideline last year was directed at the refs but the cause of it was because of Toney's incompetence. His anger finally spilled over in the worst way.

[ChiefsFanatic]

This is like a doctor telling you that both of your testicles have cancer, and asking you which one you want removed.

[Rainbarrel]

Which one by cutting loose is more likely to screw up another locker room? Toney to da Bills!

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

You could read Pat’s lips after Toney ****ed up against the Eagles.

“Can’t trust that guy”

That’s a big deal.

Eagles game was MVS. Toney had the bobble ball pick 6 against the Lions, the Offsides against Buffalo, and the bobble ball interception against New England. It felt like the Patriots game was the last straw for Toney.

[trndobrd]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Toney, not even a question. When healthy, Toney has the ability to make a play, maybe even a game-changing play. Maybe even two in a single game. Moore, he's probably a really nice kid, but he just . . . he's greg Dieter.

Some of those game-changing plays will benefit the Chiefs.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by trndobrd

Some of those game-changing plays will benefit the Chiefs.

lol, yeah.


Look, I get that people have real hate towards KT. After he posted that idiotic tweet about Andy and the Chiefs lying about his health status, that was the last straw for me as well. Any last vestige of goodwill in my heart died the moment I read that shit.


But the question here is about which of the two actually could help the team in 2024, not which is the nicer/more likeable kid.

And Toney, while being kind of an idiot, and the fact that he had an abominably bad season last year, actually has the physical skills and talent to make real NFL-caliber plays when healthy.

Hell, in his first season with NYG he had a 200+ yard game vs. DAL, and he torched that defense. Now, you can argue that he mostly caught screens and other nonsense type plays to do that, but the bottom line . . . well, go watch that highlight reel and tell me how many of those plays Skyy could make. It's going to be a really short list if you're honest about it. Like 2 or 3 max.

Go watch Toney's (albeit short) highlight reel from his first season in KC. He made some pretty nice plays in that reel. Skyy just isn't on the same level as an athlete or as a WR. It's just that simple for me.

Toney, when he's healthy and pulls his head out of his ass, can make real NFL game-changing plays. Moore has never shown that kind of ability.

If I have to keep one of these guys, that's what I'm going to look at. What can either do for the team's chances to win a third SB. Not whether I like the guy as a person or not.

[philfree]

Toney's a fruit and Moore can't run more than one play a game properly. Veach drafted Moore and took a stab at Toney and both failed. Take your losses and move on. It's not like marriage where there's a lifetime of alimony.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Originally Posted by TLO

…Cutting them both is not an option.

Poll

How about cutting one and shooting the other?

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Our floor is defined and perfectly acceptable given the offseason additions.

Moore’s ceiling is nowhere. Toney has shown he can really flash and with the space he’ll have to work with given Brown/Worthy, there’s plenty of reason to think he can feast underneath without feeling the pressure of being a top option.

If Toney flames out, you cut him. Game over. Much rather give him that shot than go with Moore who isn’t going anywhere.

Outside of the Jaguars game in the regular season in 2022, and one great punt return in the Super Bowl that year, when has he shown "flashes"?

[FloridaMan88]

Skyy Less doesn’t have NFL-caliber talent… so obviously Toney.

[Megatron96]

Beginning of this one is blurry, sorry. KC stuff starts around :59

[Basileus777]

Moore is not a NFL player. Toney might still be something that can make a 53 man roster.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Basileus777

Moore is not a NFL player. Toney might still be something that can make a 53 man roster.

Shoot. Toney has elite twitch, decent speed, tracks the ball well, can make tough catches under duress, and is a nightmare for defenses with the ball in his hands.

Anyone else remember that block he hit that LB or DE with in that one game (can't remember who we were playing right now)? He nearly knocked that guy out of his shoes, weighing probably 50-60 lbs. less. Or that go route when he ran into the DB hard enough to knock the guy backwards, and he stayed on his feet, accelerated down the sideline to make that high point grab? That one's at 2:30 in that highlight reel I posted.

KT is really strong for his size.

And some of his runs after the catch are as Barry-esque as I've seen in a long time. Guy has great vision and exceptional balance through contract.


If he'd grow up, all-the-way grow up, say tomorrow, and learn to play with the intensity and focus that he did in some of those more spectacular catch-and-runs he's had, in every game on every snap, he'd be seriously good. Maybe top-20 good.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Sometimes I wonder if Toney is a cancer to this team. Nobody even knows Skyy exists.