NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list

[pugsnotdrugs19]

From SportingNews.com:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...j17r8odsobcbca

— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.

— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.

Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.

If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Trubisky only started 12 games in college.

you should look at tom brady's college stats

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

you should look at tom brady's college stats

Tom Brady sat his 1st year in the NFL, which is what the topic was about.


Tom brady is also a HOF 6th round pick


Brady is an exception to a lot of things.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Tom Brady sat his 1st year in the NFL, which is what the topic was about.


Tom brady is also a HOF 6th round pick


Brady is an exception to a lot of things.

just ****in with ya

if any team pulls the trigger in round one, its a huge gamble, regardless of whom it is.

maybe they should force teams in the draft, to wait till the second round to draft a qb.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

That's dumb. No reason to not let a young QB learn from Alex.

If you want to worry about something then worry about a young QB only knowing our current offense. When Nick Foles entered the game, Reid didn't open the offense up. He ran the same dink/dunk offense that everyone around here claims only to happens because Alex Smith is our quarterback.

If Alex Smith is the only problem with our offense then why didn't that change when Nick Foles started?

Alex Smith is a smart guy who is also a team guy, he will a great QB for a young guy to learn from.

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

[RealSNR]

Can't seem to find the original source this is referring to. Obviously a lot of people heard/saw it, because they're all getting the same impression out of it:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=139966

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

Those are the vets that teams bring in after the young guy is the starter. Something like Hasselback and Luck situation.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

That's dumb. No reason to not let a young QB learn from Alex.

If you want to worry about something then worry about a young QB only knowing our current offense. When Nick Foles entered the game, Reid didn't open the offense up. He ran the same dink/dunk offense that everyone around here claims only to happens because Alex Smith is our quarterback.

If Alex Smith is the only problem with our offense then why didn't that change when Nick Foles started?

Alex Smith is a smart guy who is also a team guy, he will a great QB for a young guy to learn from.

Stop confusing safe for smart.

[jallmon]

Originally Posted by Trent Green GOAT

A dual "threat"....

Can throw a redzone interception OR fumble.

[Coogs]

From Great Blue North...

The ‘most interesting man in the draft’ … He’s not even a consensus first-round prospect for the upcoming draft, but Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes may be the most popular guy in the class. Mahomes had what is being described as a very impressive pro day today in Lubbock where he showed what is considered to be the strongest arm in this year’s draft. However, what makes Mahomes such a popular guy is the number of team’s that want him to either work out privately or visit. Mahomes has already reportedly worked out with as many as a half dozen teams, including Cleveland, Chicago, Cincinnati, Arizona, New Orleans and San Diego, while he reportedly has workouts or visits planned with as many as a dozen more. One other team that appears to be very interested in Mahomes are the Giants. How interested? Giants’ head coach Ben McAdoo, who has never attended a pro day in the three-year tenure with the team, but took the time to travel half way across the country to check out Mahomes as a potential successor to Eli Manning. Only problem for the Giants is that it is starting to look like Mahomes may off the board long before they get on the clock with the 23rd pick.

[ChiefGator]

You learn from vet QBs in the QB room, when they look over every throw (and non-throw) from the previous game or practice.

[nychief]

We are going to have to trade up for Qb in rnd one, we aren't going to do that. We'll take BPA or trade down. I think we'll get a QB but not in round one.

[oldman]

I'm still not sold on any of these guys being true 1st rounders, let alone top 5. Other than Trubisky, Mahomes is the only one that I'd take in the first. I could go with Webb or Kaaya in the 2nd.
Bottom line is none of theses guys are ready to start in 2017, so Smith has to be the QB this year. If Bray or whichever one we pick isn't ready next year, cut one of two and draft a QB again.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Trent Green said it best.

The team had just drafted Brodie Croyle. The media wanted to know Trent's thoughts. Trent loved KC and the fans, and he was the true leader of the team in the locker room. Surely this selfless guy who wants what's best for the team would be willing to work with the young kid on stuff, right? The media was itching to write its first fan fodder story with some nice quotes from Trent Green.

Know what they basically got in so many words? "**** the kid. If he wants to play in the NFL, he needs to ****ing figure it out. We've got a coaching staff. They'll help him. That's their job. It's not my ****ing job. My job is to play football."

It's not Alex's job to teach the rookie. Something tells me he probably won't make teaching a rookie a priority. If Mahomes or Watson or whoever it is sits next to him on the bench and asks what to do in this situation, Alex can tell him what he did, but he's not required to hold his goddamn hand or quiz him in practice. He doesn't even have to hang out with the guy or like him.

It's a giant myth that veteran QBs teach the young guys who are supposed to replace them eventually on the team, and when they do, just because they're great QBs doesn't make them great teachers.

All that Peyton Manning dick in Brock Assweiler's mouth sure did Brock a ton of good, didn't it? Or Jim Sorgi or Curtis Painter. Boy, those guys looked sharp and wise from all that Manning tutelage, didn't they? And all those Tom Brady backups that have been successful for other teams. They learned by watching and talking with Tom, and now they're doing sooooo well, aren't they?

It's pretty well-known that Brett Favre hated Rodgers' guts, even if he wasn't a total dick to the guy. He didn't exactly "take the guy under his wing." Guess who did? The ****ing coaching staff did.

You're looking at it wrong. Of course it's the coaching staffs job to develop and train a young player. In regards to learning from a vet, no one is expecting them to try and teach the kid to throw a football, they're expecting him to teach him through his actions. Alex is a locker room guy, he's a study guy, he's a true student of the game. You draft a QB and let him watch Alex Smith, how he prepares for games, how great his work ethic is, how much he watches game film, etc. That's how young QBs learn from great veterans. Every guy drafted to an NFL can throw a football.

But does every rookie drafted know how to truly be a professional to increase his chance of success? No. That's what veterans are for and rookies sitting behind one for s year.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by oldman

I'm still not sold on any of these guys being true 1st rounders, let alone top 5. Other than Trubisky, Mahomes is the only one that I'd take in the first. I could go with Webb or Kaaya in the 2nd.
Bottom line is none of theses guys are ready to start in 2017, so Smith has to be the QB this year. If Bray or whichever one we pick isn't ready next year, cut one of two and draft a QB again.

Not one of these guys is ready to start. You are correct, but supply/demand will be in effect for this draft. Many teams like the potential of this class, and the buzz seems to indicate that several franchises are indeed looking for replacements for aging veterans. Cardinals, Steelers, Giants and Chiefs come to mind. This is on top of teams with immediate needs like the Jets, Browns, 49ers, Texans and Bears.

Most of these kids don't have 1st round talent, but a watered-down qb driven league says more and more teams will be getting in line to take a chance on potential.

I think the top 4 (Watson, Trubisky, Mahomes and Kizer) all go in round 1.

[RustShack]

It's not the vets job to take him under his wing, it's the young QB's job to follow him around, pay attention to what he does, and ask him questions.

But it's more so the QB coaches job to coach him. Even better when you have an OC and HC all also good with QB's.