***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

There's about 8 kids riding their bikes around outside right now. Good kids. Good neighborhood. My girlfriends kids are pissed we won't let them out to play. They're 12 and 10, so they have some understanding of the situation. Mostly they just miss their friends..

I feel like we should keep them in, but they're so bored inside.

[RINGLEADER]

NY has more cases today than any other country on planet Earth. Given how bad it’s been in Italy and Spain (who have never gotten as high in daily new infections as NY today) that’s just crazy.

[TLO]

tbh they're all practicing pretty good social distracting.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

NY has more cases today than any other country on planet Earth. Given how bad it’s been in Italy and Spain (who have never gotten as high in daily new infections as NY today) that’s just crazy.

God bless the doctors, nurses, hospital personnel and all those suffering from this disease.

[2112]

Originally Posted by TLO

There's about 8 kids riding their bikes around outside right now. Good kids. Good neighborhood. My girlfriends kids are pissed we won't let them out to play. They're 12 and 10, so they have some understanding of the situation. Mostly they just miss their friends..

I feel like we should keep them in, but they're so bored inside.

You can’t take a chance man. It’s just not worth it

[TLO]

Originally Posted by D2112

You can’t take a chance man. It’s just not worth it

We're not. We take them out to draw on the sidewalk, and went for a walk on trail by the river this weekend.

I feel for them too. But it's what is best.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Donger

Do us all a favor, and crawl back to DC with this shit. TIA.

Political or not his point is spot on. They have likely lied about virtually everything. It is in the CCP's DNA.

[oaklandhater]

US trajectory is worst in the world.

From the FT - @jburnmurdoch pic.twitter.com/R6ZuoZTUfS

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) March 31, 2020

[Chief Roundup]

Things might be fixing to get a little dicey where I grew up and went to high school. There is a camp ground that is full of people, evidently about 20, from New York City that have arrived in the last week. These people are not welcome by the locals. The local sheriffs department has been made aware and claims that there is nothing that they can do and have asked the state attorney general for advice and help in dealing with this situation. The locals have been sending threatening messages that those people may not be alive if they do not leave the area.
As I don't live there any more the info I am getting is coming from people that I went to school with that still live in that area, southern Missouri.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Things might be fixing to get a little dicey where I grew up and went to high school. There is a camp ground that is full of people, evidently about 20, from New York City that have arrived in the last week. These people are not welcome by the locals. The local sheriffs department has been made aware and claims that there is nothing that they can do and have asked the state attorney general for advice and help in dealing with this situation. The locals have been sending threatening messages that those people may not be alive if they do not leave the area.
As I don't live there any more the info I am getting is coming from people that I went to school with that still live in that area, southern Missouri.

I assume y'all got guns. Get them Yankees back in their cars and tell them to drive their ass home!!!

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

I assume y'all got guns. Get them Yankees back in their cars and tell them to drive their ass home!!!

Yeah just a few.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Things might be fixing to get a little dicey where I grew up and went to high school. There is a camp ground that is full of people, evidently about 20, from New York City that have arrived in the last week. These people are not welcome by the locals. The local sheriffs department has been made aware and claims that there is nothing that they can do and have asked the state attorney general for advice and help in dealing with this situation. The locals have been sending threatening messages that those people may not be alive if they do not leave the area.
As I don't live there any more the info I am getting is coming from people that I went to school with that still live in that area, southern Missouri.

The governor of Rhode Island told police to pull over anybody with ny plates. Cuomo had a baby and threatened to sue and that put an end to that policy.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Things might be fixing to get a little dicey where I grew up and went to high school. There is a camp ground that is full of people, evidently about 20, from New York City that have arrived in the last week. These people are not welcome by the locals. The local sheriffs department has been made aware and claims that there is nothing that they can do and have asked the state attorney general for advice and help in dealing with this situation. The locals have been sending threatening messages that those people may not be alive if they do not leave the area.
As I don't live there any more the info I am getting is coming from people that I went to school with that still live in that area, southern Missouri.

Not sure what exactly can be done. Maybe require them to take a test and if they come back negative then no harm no foul.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by D2112

The governor of Rhode Island told police to pull over anybody with ny plates. Cuomo had a baby and threatened to sue and that put an end to that policy.

Well they can counter that suit with a wrongful death suit threat.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Well they can counter that suit with a wrongful death suit threat.

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