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Old 12-30-2015, 12:48 PM  
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Old 01-29-2016, 05:14 PM   #286
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I find it really hard to believe that a guy killed the girl only to frame Avery. I agree more with the latter part. I could easily see the corrupt cops finding her murdered body in her the Rav4 elsewhere. Knowing they have a 30 million dollar knife coming at them, they take advantage of Avery being a POI. Cleaning the SUV, burning her body in the quarry then dumping it and the car on his property in the middle of the night and just wait for someone to find it 2 days later is possible.
It may be contradictory but I agree with this too -- Avery's defense never came up with an alternative method for the victims body and car to end up on his property.

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It may be contradictory but I agree with this too -- Avery's defense never came up with an alternative method for the victims body and car to end up on his property.

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the other dassey kid and the step dad did it. Cops had minimal evidence and planted enough to secure a conviction. Knowing that there was most likely a huge settlement coming out of the county the judge and prosecutors didn't push too hard against the evidence hoping their yearly raises continued.
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It may be contradictory but I agree with this too -- Avery's defense never came up with an alternative method for the victims body and car to end up on his property.

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They weren't allowed to bring up other suspects.

And oddly enough the documentary doesn't either. The creepy ex b/f who lead the search seemed sketchy to me. The former cop/current sheriff seemed sketchy to me.

IIRC the prosecution/investigation never even interviewed friends or family of the victim which is where the guilty party comes from in most cases.
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They weren't allowed to bring up other suspects.

And oddly enough the documentary doesn't either. The creepy ex b/f who lead the search seemed sketchy to me. The former cop/current sheriff seemed sketchy to me.

IIRC the prosecution/investigation never even interviewed friends or family of the victim which is where the guilty party comes from in most cases.
the step dad and brother alibi each other and the bus driver proved they both lied and were there when the photographer was there
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I find it really hard to believe that a guy killed the girl only to frame Avery. I agree more with the latter part. I could easily see the corrupt cops finding her murdered body in her the Rav4 elsewhere. Knowing they have a 30 million dollar knife coming at them, they take advantage of Avery being a POI. Cleaning the SUV, burning her body in the quarry then dumping it and the car on his property in the middle of the night and just wait for someone to find it 2 days later is possible.
pardon me, are you merely drunk or just stoned as to write such stupid prose??
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the other dassey kid and the step dad did it. Cops had minimal evidence and planted enough to secure a conviction. Knowing that there was most likely a huge settlement coming out of the county the judge and prosecutors didn't push too hard against the evidence hoping their yearly raises continued.
So this is all about yearly raises? Come on, I've read your postings for years. You are smarter than that. Or are you trolling?
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So this is all about yearly raises? Come on, I've read your postings for years. You are smarter than that. Or are you trolling?
Actually, the counties insurance company told the county that they weren't covering the liability due to the counties blatant disregard of standards. Basically, the insurance company decided that it wasn't an accident that Avery got railroaded.

So it was a multi-million dollar lawsuit that would of, if not bankrupted the county completely, but the county in pretty dire financial straits.
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I find it really hard to believe that a guy killed the girl only to frame Avery. I agree more with the latter part. I could easily see the corrupt cops finding her murdered body in her the Rav4 elsewhere. Knowing they have a 30 million dollar knife coming at them, they take advantage of Avery being a POI. Cleaning the SUV, burning her body in the quarry then dumping it and the car on his property in the middle of the night and just wait for someone to find it 2 days later is possible.
I don't think he necessarily targeted him to frame him. I think the real rapist simply thought "how can I get away with a rape/murder? Who would be the best person who the cops/town would blame it on?"

Steven Avery is an easy target if you are a smart criminal. All you have to do is look at his first case. The guy had 16 people who were an alibi for him and he still got convicted. People in that town did not have a high opinion of him or his family. Smart criminals are not on a timeline. They can wait years to plan out a murder or rape... Maybe the guy who actually did this did just that and seized the opportunity...

The scariest part of this case is that if Avery is innocent the guy who actually did this is still out there and probably planning another rape and murder.
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They weren't allowed to bring up other suspects.

And oddly enough the documentary doesn't either. The creepy ex b/f who lead the search seemed sketchy to me. The former cop/current sheriff seemed sketchy to me.

IIRC the prosecution/investigation never even interviewed friends or family of the victim which is where the guilty party comes from in most cases.
I can't remember if it was him or her brother who was being questioned by a reporter the day she was reported missing and he says something to the effect of 'Hoping to find her soon because they needed closure'.
That was a practiced answer and/or statement he had ready when the questions started rolling in. Thats something he knew would be a normal thing to say about the situation. Only thing is he spit that out too soon, way too soon.
I've dealt with people who go through life lying, stealing, cheating, and doing much much worse to get what they want. They have their stories and answers already made up to cover their asses. Thats what this guy had done.
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So this is all about yearly raises? Come on, I've read your postings for years. You are smarter than that. Or are you trolling?
Yearly raises and pride, I forgot pride in my previous post.
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I don't think he necessarily targeted him to frame him. I think the real rapist simply thought "how can I get away with a rape/murder? Who would be the best person who the cops/town would blame it on?"

Steven Avery is an easy target if you are a smart criminal. All you have to do is look at his first case. The guy had 16 people who were an alibi for him and he still got convicted. People in that town did not have a high opinion of him or his family. Smart criminals are not on a timeline. They can wait years to plan out a murder or rape... Maybe the guy who actually did this did just that and seized the opportunity...

The scariest part of this case is that if Avery is innocent the guy who actually did this is still out there and probably planning another rape and murder.
Or dead or in prison or dead
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the other dassey kid and the step dad did it. Cops had minimal evidence and planted enough to secure a conviction. Knowing that there was most likely a huge settlement coming out of the county the judge and prosecutors didn't push too hard against the evidence hoping their yearly raises continued.
This.

And this is just me making shit up but, i believe Brendan Dassey knows they did it. I think he walked in on THEM committing the act and was suppose to frame it on Avery, but accidentally got himself convicted in the process.

What if he DID see Teresa get raped, and DID participate in it, but was told to pin it on Avery. He ****ed up by including himself in the story because he's a dumbass and got himself convicted.
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the step dad and brother alibi each other and the bus driver proved they both lied and were there when the photographer was there
And Don't forget Avery's early testimony too. Something along the lines of, "She left and when i turned around he was gone".
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So this is all about yearly raises? Come on, I've read your postings for years. You are smarter than that. Or are you trolling?
No.

This is about believing Avery to be guilty AGAIN without due diligence or even investigating anyone but Avery. They didn't even investigate the brother and step dad, and they're the damn neighbors. They were there. Bones were found in THEIR burn barrel. It was their car he was selling. Is that not enough to raise an eyebrow?

The lawsuit, the same detectives and the fact they disliked Avery was simply added incentive to continue their ignorance. The same shitty police work that got Avery convicted the first time.

They were so dead set on convicting him because they believed he was guilty, that they eventually planted evidence to get the conviction.
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Dateline NBC has the Avery case on tonight. 9:00 pm central.
Rather superficial overview of the case. Didn't even talk about where did the blood go? And they talked about the nephew being convicted of the crime.

Nephew says they slit her throat in the bedroom

Cops say Avery shot her in the garage.

Either she was killed in the garage or the bedroom according to their convictions. How can you convict them both?

But for me its not finding a drop of blood anywhere in the bedroom or garage. He may be guilty but those crooked cops planted evidence.
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