Movies and TV Netflix: Making a Murderer - Page 9

GloucesterChief · 01-13-2016, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It never ceases to amaze me how people fold right up when the police start going on about how they're trying to "help" and how they'll let others know how you cooperated or they'll go hard on you if you don't help.

Just say I want my lawyer.

The only words you should say are:

"I plead the fifth and I want my lawyer."

Pleading the fifth isn't a sign of guilt, it is the smart thing to do.

**SAGA45** · 01-12-2016, 04:39 PM

The FBI testing of the blood sealed the deal. The defense brought in the chemical analyst to dismiss the results but I wouldnt doubt much of her testimony went over the jurors heads.

It also seemed desperate at that point. The blood was the defense only real shot at proving he was framed and/or the killer was actually still out there. He was screwed from a Federal level on down.

And Lenk....man that dude could easily be a hitman. Ice cold...just straight up ice friggin cold.

**Rausch** · 01-13-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45

And Lenk....man that dude could easily be a hitman. Ice cold...just straight up ice friggin cold.

The ex-boyfriend always stuck out to me...

**Perineum Ripper** · 01-13-2016, 03:28 PM

That Dassey kid shouldn't be in prison..he had no clue what happened

The investigators would question him..he would answer with something they didn't like so they steered him with their questions and said what they wanted him to say

Was there a body in the fire pit
No
Are you sure
Yes
Don't lie to us. We are here to help. You seen a and or foot or head or arm in the fire didn't you
Yeah
Yeah what
I seen toes

Horseshit..that kid didn't see shit..he was sitting on his ass playing playstation or watching movies

Then his first lawyer was the most worthless rat faced **** alive..every time he smiled I wanted to kick a puppy

**Fire Me Boy!** · 01-13-2016, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mac459

That Dassey kid shouldn't be in prison..he had no clue what happened

The investigators would question him..he would answer with something they didn't like so they steered him with their questions and said what they wanted him to say

Was there a body in the fire pit
No
Are you sure
Yes
Don't lie to us. We are here to help. You seen a and or foot or head or arm in the fire didn't you
Yeah
Yeah what
I seen toes

Horseshit..that kid didn't see shit..he was sitting on his ass playing playstation or watching movies

Then his first lawyer was the most worthless rat faced **** alive..every time he smiled I wanted to kick a puppy

Second one wasn't much better. They play 3 hours of his taped confession, but prosecution AND defense agree to not play the rest of the tape, including the part where he tells his mom he made it all up - that the investigators "got inside my head"?!?!?!

**Perineum Ripper** · 01-13-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Second one wasn't much better. They play 3 hours of his taped confession, but prosecution AND defense agree to not play the rest of the tape, including the part where he tells his mom he made it all up - that the investigators "got inside my head"?!?!?!

I forgot about the part..his defense probably didn't watch the whole video himself

**Fire Me Boy!** · 01-14-2016, 08:06 AM

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/...0160107?page=4

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2. What went on with the jury deliberations?

The much more interesting part about Mahler is his new allegation that two fellow jurors were related to officials in Manitowoc County, where Avery was initially wrongfully convicted. Once the trial was over, Mahler discovered, "[one juror] was the father of a Manitowoc County Sheriff's deputy," and that "another juror, his wife works for the Manitowoc County Clerk's Office," according to an interview he gave to People.

Maybe that's what defense attorney Jerry Buting was getting at in the final episode, when he made a comment about unanswered questions that he had about jury deliberations. After all, according to Mahler, the original count was that only three jurors were convinced Avery was guilty. In an interview with the Today show, filmmakers Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos said a juror contacted them after the series aired and claimed his or her decision to vote guilty was made under duress. "The person lived in the county, feared for their safety, and also said, 'If they could frame Steven Avery, they could do it to me,'" Ricciardi said in a follow up interview with Time.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/...#ixzz3xEAcUDNt

frankotank · 01-14-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/...0160107?page=4

wow.
yeah #2 goes a LOOOOOONG way towards me better understanding how in the hell those jurors all voted to convict!
in a perfect world you'd stick to your guns and say...no ****ing way you guys can sit there and honestly say you don't have reasonable doubt....but I get it.

you're on a jury with relatives of the cops who are under fire! I get it...I can see why someone said this.

"If they could frame Steven Avery, they could do it to me,'"

Graystoke · 01-14-2016, 09:19 AM

"Hello?"
"Yeah?"
"Yeah."

"What does 'inconsistent' mean?"

journeyscarab · 01-14-2016, 04:16 PM

My wife and I thought it was strange how the police insisted that Averys girlfriend Jodi stay away from him during the trial. Interesting article popped up today...looks like that may have been staged to get her out of an abusive situation with Avery.

http://news.yahoo.com/steven-averys-...170646126.html

Steven Avery's Ex-Girlfriend's Confession Might Change Our Minds About His Innocence
Mic By Philip Lewis

In a shocking update Wednesday night, the ex-fiancée of convicted murderer Steven Avery told the world "he's not innocent." Avery, the subject of Netflix's popular crime documentary Making a Murderer, is presumed by many to be innocent in the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach, a local photographer.

However, Jodi Stachowski's interview with HLN's Nancy Grace show has many viewers scratching their heads. "Steven's the one person I don't trust," Stachowski said in the interview, according to the Daily Beast. "He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, behind closed doors, he's a monster." This revelation comes as a surprise to those who recognize Stachowski as a caring partner to Avery.

Stachowski told HLN senior producer Natisha Lance that she knew Avery was guilty of murder "because of the way I know he is." When the interviewer asked Stachowski if Avery was capable of murder, Stachowski acknowledged that he could have been.

"Yeah," Stachowski told Lance during the interview, as reported by the Daily Beast. "Hurting people. He told me once, excuse my language, 'all bitches owe him' because of the one that sent him to prison the first time. We all owed him."

Making a Murderer follows Avery, who spent 18 years in prison after being convicted of sexual assault in 1985. He was then exonerated and released in 2003, and then sentenced for the 2005 murder of Halbach, although the evidence is unclear. But Stachowski believes the time has come to reveal "what a monster he is," she said during the interview. "He's not innocent."

Avery met Stachowski in 2003, after his release from prison. Stachowski allegedly told directors Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos that she was not interested in being on Making A Murderer. "Steven called me and told me that if I didn't say anything good and nice about him, I'd pay," Stachowski told Lance, according to MTV. "He'd beat me."

Twitter had mixed reactions toward Stachowski's revelation, much of it skepticism.

Stachowski's two-year relationship with Avery was troubled, and filled with alleged abuse, according to Stachowski. "I ate two boxes of rat poison just so I could go to the hospital and get away from him and ask them to get the police to help me," she told Lance during the segment, according to the Daily Beast.

During the interview, Stachowski recalled Avery threatening to burn her house down, verbally threatening her and physically assaulting her. "I was in a bath and he threatened to throw a blow dryer in there, and he told me that he'd be able to get away with it," Stachowski told Lance.

"He'd beat me all the time, punch me, throw me against the wall. I tried to leave and he smashed the windshield out of my car so I couldn't leave him."

When asked if she believes Avery is guilty of killing Halbach, Stachowski said, "I do, because he threatened to kill me and my family and a friend of mine."

Stachowski, who maintains that she has never watched an episode of Making A Murderer, said the documentary is "all lies."

"It was all an act," Stachowski told Lance, the Daily Beast reported. "He told me how to act. He said smile, be happy. I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to get hurt."

BigRock · 01-14-2016, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by journeyscarab

looks like that may have been staged to get her out of an abusive situation with Avery.

They staged arresting her multiple times to get her out of an abusive situation with a guy who was no threat to her on account of his being in jail?

journeyscarab · 01-14-2016, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

They staged arresting her multiple times to get her out of an abusive situation with a guy who was no threat to her on account of his being in jail?

Guess I missed that part of the documentary. It just seemed strange the police could basically put a restraining order to keep them from contacting each other when he was already behind bars.

stevieray · 01-14-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

They staged arresting her multiple times to get her out of an abusive situation with a guy who was no threat to her on account of his being in jail?

Ya, I don't buy that at all.

Just like the Judge claiming his crimes got worse..WTF? guy was in prison for 18 years for a crime HE DIDN'T COMMIT.

Bottom line.. the State wasn't about to pay the guy after falsely accusing him TWICE.

Swanman · 01-14-2016, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

They staged arresting her multiple times to get her out of an abusive situation with a guy who was no threat to her on account of his being in jail?

It would not surprise me a bit if Nancy "The Un****able Monster" Grace fed her each and every line of that interview. That bitch thinks everyone is guilty all the time. She bled all over the screen for months after the Casey Anthony verdict.

GloucesterChief · 01-14-2016, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

It would not surprise me a bit if Nancy "The Un****able Monster" Grace fed her each and every line of that interview. That bitch thinks everyone is guilty all the time. She bled all over the screen for months after the Casey Anthony verdict.

Nancy Grace = former prosecutor. One who was found to have conducted prosecutorial misconduct in two cases.

01-13-2016, 03:28 PM	#4
Perineum Ripper Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $1759542	That Dassey kid shouldn't be in prison..he had no clue what happened The investigators would question him..he would answer with something they didn't like so they steered him with their questions and said what they wanted him to say Was there a body in the fire pit No Are you sure Yes Don't lie to us. We are here to help. You seen a and or foot or head or arm in the fire didn't you Yeah Yeah what I seen toes Horseshit..that kid didn't see shit..he was sitting on his ass playing playstation or watching movies Then his first lawyer was the most worthless rat faced **** alive..every time he smiled I wanted to kick a puppy
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01-14-2016, 09:19 AM	#9
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01-14-2016, 04:16 PM	#10
journeyscarab SHOCKERS BABY! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Overland Park, KS Casino cash: $3633555	My wife and I thought it was strange how the police insisted that Averys girlfriend Jodi stay away from him during the trial. Interesting article popped up today...looks like that may have been staged to get her out of an abusive situation with Avery. http://news.yahoo.com/steven-averys-...170646126.html Steven Avery's Ex-Girlfriend's Confession Might Change Our Minds About His Innocence Mic By Philip Lewis In a shocking update Wednesday night, the ex-fiancée of convicted murderer Steven Avery told the world "he's not innocent." Avery, the subject of Netflix's popular crime documentary Making a Murderer, is presumed by many to be innocent in the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach, a local photographer. However, Jodi Stachowski's interview with HLN's Nancy Grace show has many viewers scratching their heads. "Steven's the one person I don't trust," Stachowski said in the interview, according to the Daily Beast. "He's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, behind closed doors, he's a monster." This revelation comes as a surprise to those who recognize Stachowski as a caring partner to Avery. Stachowski told HLN senior producer Natisha Lance that she knew Avery was guilty of murder "because of the way I know he is." When the interviewer asked Stachowski if Avery was capable of murder, Stachowski acknowledged that he could have been. "Yeah," Stachowski told Lance during the interview, as reported by the Daily Beast. "Hurting people. He told me once, excuse my language, 'all bitches owe him' because of the one that sent him to prison the first time. We all owed him." Making a Murderer follows Avery, who spent 18 years in prison after being convicted of sexual assault in 1985. He was then exonerated and released in 2003, and then sentenced for the 2005 murder of Halbach, although the evidence is unclear. But Stachowski believes the time has come to reveal "what a monster he is," she said during the interview. "He's not innocent." Avery met Stachowski in 2003, after his release from prison. Stachowski allegedly told directors Laura Ricciardi and Moira Demos that she was not interested in being on Making A Murderer. "Steven called me and told me that if I didn't say anything good and nice about him, I'd pay," Stachowski told Lance, according to MTV. "He'd beat me." Twitter had mixed reactions toward Stachowski's revelation, much of it skepticism. Stachowski's two-year relationship with Avery was troubled, and filled with alleged abuse, according to Stachowski. "I ate two boxes of rat poison just so I could go to the hospital and get away from him and ask them to get the police to help me," she told Lance during the segment, according to the Daily Beast. During the interview, Stachowski recalled Avery threatening to burn her house down, verbally threatening her and physically assaulting her. "I was in a bath and he threatened to throw a blow dryer in there, and he told me that he'd be able to get away with it," Stachowski told Lance. "He'd beat me all the time, punch me, throw me against the wall. I tried to leave and he smashed the windshield out of my car so I couldn't leave him." When asked if she believes Avery is guilty of killing Halbach, Stachowski said, "I do, because he threatened to kill me and my family and a friend of mine." Stachowski, who maintains that she has never watched an episode of Making A Murderer, said the documentary is "all lies." "It was all an act," Stachowski told Lance, the Daily Beast reported. "He told me how to act. He said smile, be happy. I didn't know what to do. I didn't want to get hurt."
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01-12-2016, 04:39 PM	#2
SAGA45 Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Compton, CA Casino cash: $4544955	The FBI testing of the blood sealed the deal. The defense brought in the chemical analyst to dismiss the results but I wouldnt doubt much of her testimony went over the jurors heads. It also seemed desperate at that point. The blood was the defense only real shot at proving he was framed and/or the killer was actually still out there. He was screwed from a Federal level on down. And Lenk....man that dude could easily be a hitman. Ice cold...just straight up ice friggin cold.
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